I'm pretty much in agreement with you!

I have no answer to the statement - ok fruit may fall off the tree, but vegetables etc are killed. I would need to eat a fruit only diet - and many do - in order to be in complete alignment with the most extreme position of principled living....this I do not do.

I have nothing to say to someone who has their own local setup and treats the animals well when alive and slaughters them with respect for food and not profit.

But there is suffering, unnecessary and brutal. Not just animals of course, but the fact of humans suffering doesn't justify the suffering of 'lesser beings' - the same thinking amongst humans leads to the ghettoisation of certain sections of society. The two issues are not disconnected. We can see where we add to suffering and take steps to avoid doing so, thereby simultaneously also easing some of our own. Such is my holistic view on this anyway, it is not a question of convincing another, just seeing what's what for oneself (I don't mean you in particular, just in general :).

people will mostly eat vegetables grown in their own greenhouse... that is basically their home.

agree and support that vision, in which I'd include livestock for those who wish it and are able to slaughter locally/themselves, free-range eggs etc....

It's the violence done to self and others through the twisted paradigm of mass factory farms, profit etc. It is done to animals, it is done to humans. Why do it at all and, if we are able to mitigate, why not? It's also possible that we feel disempowered, as if it won't make a difference. Perhaps, but this could also be the 'ego' making the issue about itself and finding excuses.

I've been through all these mental processes and emotional positionings on other issues, I really am not carrying the energy of judgement in this comment. I don't speak for anyone except myself (yeah, and the animals lol).