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RE: The core concepts of DTube's new blockchain

in #dtube5 years ago

If succesful, the steem community would be the biggest benefactor considering 50% of the starting DTC distribution will go directly to them (or at least those who used dtube in the past)

Also, we'd create a bunch of new steem accounts on a daily basis, as we want to maximize rewards for our users we'd likely want to create at least what our RCs permits us to.

Lastly, if some of these concepts are interesting, they could get coded into the steem chain. It's basically about what I said in the first part of the article. STEEM shouldn't be so blind to what others are doing and refuse every new idea. This chain is like a cousin of STEEM, so applying any principle I listed here is doable for STEEM, I just didn't have the influence to convince a crowd that doesn't listen (top witnesses). If some of the stuff I said in this article is true, steem can benefit directly by copying it.

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So that is the only way? The vast majority of accounts on here don't use dtube, so no benefit there for most. Doing an airdrop to those that haven't used dtube in the past is probably a good way to grow your user base... you would be bringing in new users instead of ones you already have...

Just a thought.

Regarding the witnesses not listening... well perhaps they are more open now? I mean they did just approve a change that the majority of the community seems to be against. I think a lot of what you are proposing makes a lot more sense than what we are doing by just shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic with the EIP.

Here is where I don't believe you: when you say you didn't have influence to convince (read my comment below). What you should have done is put in the work while they don't listen, post about it regularly (not more than once a month), and people would naturally gravitate towards your ideas if your work is good. STEEM can get exponentially increasing amounts of contributions from devs as the chain grows.

In my opinion, what would have been better for both Dtube and Steem, would be to accelerate the SMTs development process using your help and implement the features you needed as optional for any SMT. Dtube was the main candidate for an SMT, and SMTs are not necessarily clones of the current version of STEEM, they might have changes in their protocols which are not directly implemented to STEEM coin.

The contributions we are getting from developers are systematically centered around making money themselves. Either get top witness, or extract a fee or beneficiary reward from the mass of users. It's a sad game that most developers have been playing on here for a long time, creating a huge competition.

Why would I spend a year of my life working on an open-source code used by people who will actively try to hurt my business with the tools I built? I suppose that if DTube was really considered as the true partner for video on steem, instead of seeing the majority of the community going to DLive when they offered candies, and seeing them doing the same with 3speak now, I would be less salty.

Also finally, to answer your point more pragmatically, I'm just going to link to you to ONE FILE of the steem chain codebase. Just this file has more lines (5600) of code than avalon in its' entirety. I'm a developer, not a garbage man...

No power-up would require a lot of work, similarly to the new proof-of-brain part.

No early-user advantage is impossible on steem because fuckd up in the past and resetting it would be robbery (proposed recently by an ex steemit inc employee).

One chain <=> one app would require me to make a fork of steem so you'd still be crying here.

Perfect imbalance is unachievable on steem because each hard fork requires exchanges to replay the full chain, and afaik that would be very hard to change steem's code now that we've done 20 hardforks like that.

The only concept that you could easily put in STEEM, is removing the limits on the voting power, allowing megavotes, and getting rid of the manabar's maximum.

Okay let's say I want to start working on that concept. Let's say I code it into steem on a separate branch. Let's say I make a pull request and propose it with a steem post, and on the private slack where all witnesses are. What would happen then? First, more than 2/3 of the witnesses wouldn't react to it. The rest would combat it, find irrefutable arguments on why it shouldn't be merged, or just distract the conversation away onto less focused topics. I've seen it happen more times than I can count. More than 1/3 of the witnesses are profiting from bidbots and there are 'risks' around hardforking steem (e.g. exchanges going maintenance mode during the replay that takes days). Even if somehow steemit inc pushed for it and convinced everyone to merge my changes, it wouldn't get in production until the next planned hardfork. And, to hit the nail in the coffin, feel free to check out the publish date of the hardfork we are currently on, and now imagine having to wait that long to make changes happen to your website.

You focus on the negatives of staying with steem. What about the positives? What about the negatives of starting you own chain, getting adoption etc... I don’t know honestly if you start providing value to steem and post about it I don’t see why you wouldn’t have become a witness yourself. Also, 3speak is not any kind of partner to STEEM and you were treated equally to Dlive. If people decide to post somewhere other than Dtube, it’s their own choice. Maybe it’s because oracle d and theycallmedan give everything to steem? All they do is provide value, so people want to help them. Play their game, and don’t focus on useless witnesses. It cam only get better with time.

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Will D.Tube create Steem Accounts / or promote Steem Accounts creation in a special way?

So it's basically a sister-chain?

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What do you mean sister-chain? It's two separate blockchains with totally different codebase.

Avalon just shares many similar concepts like the proof of brain, the account ledger, the dpos-like consensus, the ressource system instead of fees for transfers, etc.

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