this is all very handy info! thanks alex and guru. I was just thinking about looking in to d-tube and was going to migrate all my stuff over from youtube as well.... I think I'll still give it a go at some point so I at least know what its all about, but not in such a hurry and maybe just a couple of testers while theyre sorting it all out. It sounds like a bit of a nightmare.... cheers for the article :) Basil x