Right on, thanks for the information. I haven’t really run into a situation where I felt I couldn’t make it work unless I got Simplify3D to your point. The printer I had first was an XYZ and the slicer software wasn’t the greatest. I now use mattercontrol and I use Cura sometimes when I need more options. I have heard of onshape and I think I will give that a try next. I was thinking of trying that or fusion 360, I really like the browser style modelers. I attempted blender a couple of times but ended up abandoning it because it was just to complex for me at a beginner level. Tinkercad has worked out for me, I usually build really basic things like phone cases, sewing circles, etc that are really basic shape wise. I needed something better and I think you helped me decide. Thank you so much for all the info, Happy Printing!