On Engagement – Back Chaining and an Existential ExperiencesteemCreated with Sketch.

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Allow the Existential Experience

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Everything starts with having a sense of existence within your situation. Where am I? What is this place?

A dog should have the ability to exist without manically seeking out reinforcement or obviously avoiding work.

It is important to have a sense of existence within your situation as well as a sense of place and space. How can you do that when you are rushed out onto the field with a toy stuffed in your face? Or have done nothing but look into your handler’s face since getting out of the car?

Transition: Attention to Work (front chain)


Many times the transition from Attention to work is where the Engagement problem happens. When the criteria gets muddy or the cookies stop coming,”I’m Outta here.” Cue sniffing and avoidance.

As soon as the dog gets confused or doesn’t know what to do the environment explodes upon the team. Grass, and bushes, and Butterflies, Oh MY!

The answer from many teaching Engagement is more Attention and more eye contact. Perhaps an active handler. Anything to get more Engagement.

Transition: Dismissal to Work (back chain)


When we flip the script by dismissing the dog first, all kinds of cool things happen.

The transition from Dismissal to work flows directly into cookies reinforcing the Engagement process.

Whether it is a great piece of eye contact, looking off of da squirrel, or simply orienting a bit towards the handler, these behaviors lead directly to cookies, work, and interaction with the handler and turn the entire engagement behavior chain and even Engagement itself into a secondary reinforcer.alt


It’s like a freight train, you can’t stop it. Destination: Engagement.


Back Chaining Engagement


Dismissal is the natural back chain of Engagement or Attention. It is an oppositional behavior. Dismissal is uniquely bound to Attention.

To engage, you must first be disengaged. To be disengaged, you must first be engaged. These are not just funky philosophical statements, they’re the truth.

Starting with Dismissal allows the handler all the power in the world to actually capture and shape the Engagement process. You can’t do that if you are too busy trying to engage the dog.

Back Chaining vs Front Chaining Gravity vs Flight


When you back chain something it always seems like the dog falls into the behavior. It’s like gravity. That behavior just falls right into place. The dog, handler, and team, can’t help but do it right.

Dismissal to Work is a back chain.

When you front chain something you build a series of steps. Each of these steps has to be able to hold the weight of the game and the stress around it. A weak step means a tottering and unbalanced staircase. The further you take the game or behavior chain, the higher the behavior staircase goes.

If we run the game fast enough, up and down the staircase, it gives us the feeling of flight. Leaping from one tottering step to the other in various stages of control. It is exhilarating, but make a mistake and it’s a crash in some unknown locale, and you better hope all the links in your behavior chain are strong. You also have to land at some point in time.

Attention to Work is a front chain.


Supply and Demand


The Economics of Distraction are in effect as well. A limited access reinforcer is always more powerful than a freely available reinforcer.

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In the standard “get your dog’s attention” Engagement process, the Handler is a freely available reinforcer and the environment is a reinforcer with limited access. The more the handler pushes and prods for Attention and engagement, the more inviting the limited access environment becomes.

Flip that by dismissing early and often and turn the handler into the limited access resource and make the environment an obligation.

You'll have engagement in no time.

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Hi @k9disc you have great content there but I see you posted from your blog first before steemit ? I would suggest otherwise - steemit first then blog so curators can actually help push your content for curation ... it’s a pity that we can’t propose your content if it’s up your blog first - hope this tip helps :)

Why can't you promote it if it is crossposted at my blog?

What's up with this, @Howo? Am I going to run into this with Steempress?

I did republish an older blogpost to have Steempress do it's work and push the content over here. I can kind of see the point on the older posts, but on a same day auto cross post from my blog?

Is this a legit cultural thing on Steemit?

It has nothing to do with the platform or steem, it's just that curation team's rule. It's first time I heard about it though.

you can learn more about the project itself : https://steemit.com/@curie

So to answer your concerns, no, the fact that you are crossposting won't hurt your success on steem, apart from some groups like curie who apparently will not curate your content.

@deborism, with steempress a lot of bloggers with great content are coming to steem, just because they are posting at the same time on their blog and on steem you guys won't curate any of those ? This seems very counter productive on your quest to curate good content.

On a side note @k9disc : you power up all your posts, use 50/50 and then convert the sbd to steem and power it up, you'll earn approximately 2-3x more steem that way.

Thanks @howo. I appreciate the info.

It seems strange to me, and it also seems to devalue the content itself and the people who create content. It's almost as if the work to produce content is more important than the content itself. Strikes me as an outlook of one who doesn't know or respect original content.

And the content, MY content, is only monetized here for 7 days. The gripe on crossposted (and previously created) content rings hollow to me. As if I'm supposed to write all my shit twice or leave my business site alone to go steady with Steemit for 7 days.

I set the plugin as 100%, and have since seen several mentions of SBD being a better deal. Have been experimenting. Will make the change. Thanks a bunch.

Appreciate the plugin and your thoughts.

Long story short :

If your post earns 10 steem$ :

2.5 goes to curators (people who upvoted the content)

if you go for 100% you divide the 7.5$ by the value of steem (~3$)

7.5/3 = 2.5 steem power.

if you go for 50/50 :

50% gets converted to steem power : you earn 1.25 steem power
50% is converted to sbd : 3.5 sbd, which can then be converted to steem at a 1:1 ratio (it often hovers around that value) so that's 3.5 steem which can be powered up.

So in the end you earn 4.75 steem power if you do 50/50 vs 2.5 if you did 100%

It was written today and cross posted.

I was out of bandwidth when I submitted, and it took an half hour or so to populate here.

@k9disc @howo this is rather new to our guidelines so I got it checked and it’s okay :) as long as the post is crossposted around the same time and same day it should be fine ...looking forward to your new content @k9disc and thanks for coming up with such a cool plugin @howo

Thank you for checking and for the reply @deborism.

I will know not to expect @curie to upvote any of my flagship content that I crosspost over here over the next few months. I hope you'll still check it out. :D

We can curate cross-posted contents, as long as we managed to check out and propose your post (if Curie-worthy) within 24 hours :) We like it fresh from the oven... Should you have more question, feel free to reach out in Curie's discord channel. We'd be more than happy to answer your doubts <3

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