To further clear up some "confusion" -
A user was flagged by Sneak and told to die in a fire because they had stated that the new Steemit logo and color scheme "looked gay."
I'm not sure how that becomes "bigotry." Was it a poor choice of words? Perhaps. But you'd think that the CTO of Steemit, Inc. would have the sense to not be dragged into some pissing match over words that are pretty harmless in the grand scheme of things.
My suggestion:
Grow up...or perhaps stop using social media?
You represent your company and your behavior on your company's app/website has been pretty poor overall - and is often at its worst when problems with development/communication and your app/website are frustrating the community.
Good comment.
I don't want to take sides here or debate.
However, watching the steemfest videos... I must say that @sneak behaves very strangely. He is in constant belief that he is the center of attention. Interrupts people quite a lot. Condescending to some audience members as they ask questions. Makes some very odd 'jokes', and overall carries himself like someone with sociopath tendencies.
He no doubt has talents in development and has steemit's best interest at heart but @ned should keep a watchful eye. Specially when such individual is in a high position. Erratic behaiviour and an unstable mind could put the team in a position of damage control. Once the SMT project gains weight, there will be a lot more at stake. Public Image is going to matter immensely.
Generally speaking, you don't fight hate with hate. The hater is already where they want to be. You however, descend down to their level.. and then must work hard to try to return to decency.
the only 'hate' in play was the person didn't like the new logo and colour scheme. He used a poor choice of word in today's PC environment to express his dislike and for that was downvoted and then when he respectfully asked why he was downvoted he was accused of hate speech told to Die In A Fire (DIAF)... which was then repeated by the perpetrator in this post.
That comment is far more hateful speech then the original comment referring to the colour scheme as being "gay".
I do agree with your assessment of sneak and especially the role he plays. If he has talent in development the best place for him to be is likely well out of the public's eyes and ears.
You are right.
Though my last line was a broad statement.
Sneak's official post was not productive.
Completely makes his stance hypocritical really.
That is why I hope he can reanalyze and even put out an apology.
This might come back to haunt him in the future if he doesn't.
His conduct should be more professional and not driven by emotion.
I stand by everything I said. I still want bigots who insist on bigotry instead of education for themselves to die in a fire.
If you think that’s worse than flagging someone for using slurs, you’re vastly ignorant of history.
You know that gays actually refer to themselves as such, right? I'm also fairly certain that comment wasn't directed at a person, so who are you getting offended for?
What do people need education about having an opinion on the color and design of the new logo?
I never had issue with the flagging.
We are all free to exercise that right.
History does not hold strict rule on words either.
They evolve through time just like society does.
When analysed from a truth and definitive view.
It's not the word, but manner of usage that matters.
Which is what really determines the intent.
In the logo reference. It was hardly intended as hate.
Clearly the work of a sick and deranged panel moderator, interrupting other people. :D
lol I see your point and retract the sociopath assumption.
I'm not against you. You're a bubbly guy. I'm looking out for you man.
Community and leadership really needs a more harmonious existence on steemit.
That is the message that the people have asked me to deliver.
Because I moonlight as a prophet.
They call me Mahamanoid.
You are not looking out for me by policing my language by insinuating that I owe anyone an apology for calling out hateful, bigoted assholes.
Defending those who use hateful slurs is not a good look. It is you who should reconsider.
No man. I am not one who finds the use of 'gay' offensive or hateful within the context in question. As @ats-david said. Poor choice of words yes.
Anyway I thought you were CTO. This is the only reason why I believed an apology would reflect better in the future. However, I observed you clarify elsewhere that you do not represent steemit Inc. So then for that. You owe no one an apology.
I don't even defend. I simply accept. Any form of speech. I don't believe free speech means freedom to hate or has exemption from repercussion though. Consequence is another matter entirely.
He's an employee of Steemit Inc in a high level position posting on Steemit ... he can deny all he wants that he represents Steemit. The fact is that he does and he lacks the intelligence to recognize the fact that his deplorable conduct reflects on his employer.
His employer may not care ... others do whether he likes it or not.
wow. beautiful comment.
I cannot upvote this nearly enough.
Followed you man! Im at 3332 followers! haha
hey man i am glad I know you BEFORE I saw your post here! @sneak should come and talk in steemspeak.com and actually improve his image! I care about stakeholders as big as him!
Hey @ats-david, I hate to jump in here but I think someone may be posing as you in Steemit Chat, or did you really offer me some free Steem this morning ? Just wanted to let you know if it wasn't you, they have your name and photo from your page.
Yeah, it wasn’t me. They’ve been banned already, I think.
This just happened about 4 hours ago. So if they have been banned that was quick work to get it done. I can post a copy of the chat if you need it .
No, I’ve already seen it. Chat mods have already told me about it, so I’m assuming it’s been handled.
Okay, good day.
Whoever told you I was the CTO was lying or mistaken. I have never been an officer of Steemit Inc and I do not speak for the company, only myself.
http://bfy.tw/F31M
It's all over the place, actually. It's not just me. Many witnesses on Steemit.chat also have the same understanding. You might need to make a more public clarification since everyone seems to think the opposite of what you're saying here. These are just a few examples:
https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=SteemFest%C2%B2
https://www.meetup.com/steemitsf/events/243999974/
https://steemit.com/steem/@bitcoinparadise/why-steem-is-not-just-steemit-com
https://steemit.com/steemfest/@streemmusic/steemfest-after-show-party
https://golos.io/ru--delegat/@arcange/steemfest-2-v-lissabone-vtoroi-den
I just did—there is no ambiguity in my comment. You’re acting in bad faith. This and all further instances will be flagged.
Feel free to continue on your own blog where I won’t read it.
with all the official statements identifying you as CTO of Steemit Inc... you are either feeding us a line of BS or Ned came to his senses and let you go. Enlighten us.