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RE: Debunked: The Illuminate

in #debunked6 years ago

I would love to have a conversation about this as I have done years of research and have tried to hone by bullshit radar. So while not all "conspiracy" theories aren't true some aren't theories and are unfortunately a little more real than we would like to think. So I would like to open a dialogue on this as I believe there is some form of Elite that do indeed run the world that is outside what could be considered just ego driven humans. I look forward to your reply.

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I agree that there is some form of the elite running things but not quite in the usual way and not necessarily sinister. Say for example we have lord Rothschild, He has his vision for the world and over the years has built up a group of people that he can rely on that share similar views, these people are also likely of some influence.

This group then work toward a goal and along the way run into lets say bill gates, who also has his group of close friends that have influence and share an similar vision.

During discussion Rothschild and Gates decide they want to work together on a project, they then have a gathering each bringing people of relevance, to discuss how to spearhead the project. They now have each other as connections and some of the people around them also now have more connections. They then complete said project and go on their separate ways knowing they now have each other as a contact.

So that's how I see it, many different groups all working toward their own goals that may occasionally collaborate or may occasionally clash on some areas they disagree on, some of these groups seem to have good intentions and others seem to have bad intentions.

So I don't think there is one centralized group but many groups all differing, maybe even some people secretly work with others from group to group and there would likely be a complex hierarchy in each group.

Then the people with the most influence in each group may organize to meet and discuss things with each other, like any form of parliament or at least along those lines. Where they could discuss anything and everything.

So to an extent I see a conspiracy hear but I don't see there being one centralized group that controls everything.

This could be how it is with no ill will but the actions they take and ethos they follow are not in any way "good for us" from my understanding. The elite I will call them as I believe the term fits, for the most part have the same core values and I have done as much digging as I can to corroborate this. There core values are Satanism, and eugenics,as well as "maintaining" the population at around 500 million. Hitler believed in eugenics it was the backbone of his actions for his "superior race" ideology. ie belief in the right to rule over others as a right they have because they have alien DNA from pre Atlantian(elongated skulls that have been found in many ancient sites and the elongation is not from head binding as in certain African cultures which as a side note they seem to be emulating some progenitor race(take a look at Akhenaten & wife negrnefertitiskull.jpg); the Egyptians were a culture that prided themselves on accurate representation in there paintings and my reason for making this comment is that they did not take artistic license so there paintings should be taken as literal for example the photo at the bottom of this post as well as the geometry of Akhenatan's bone structure was "abnormal". Elongating the skull seems like an odd practice to pick up without any inspiration). As well there are several legitimate examples of alien artifacts, sites and races on this planet, I have tried to gather as much data to corroborate as I can on all this stuff and so far I have a fair amount so if you would like some of my material that makes me believe I am not coming from complete speculation I would be happy to provide.

Now whether or not you and I believe in what they believe is irrelevant as they whole heartedly believe it, and with there beliefs comes ritual sacrifice and blood magic, I know this sounds crazy I think it is too but if you take your beliefs and ego out of the situation and follow the actual facts of the matter,they only lead to a very bisar but unfortunately real situation.

So many examples of the hidden in plain site theme,it's hard to pick the best one. I hope to continue a lively and intelligent conversation. I have made an analogy I believe describes the situation of all the "random" data points. It's like a light bright(I'm sure this makes me seem old ;-)) one of the data points by itself seems crazy or makes no sense but when you get enough of these data points they create an unmistakable image, for me the "image" is uncomfortable and disgusting but seems to represent reality none the less.

Most are not willing to have the necessary dialogue to actually make any meaningful connections in this genre, I could keep going on this but don't want to make this one post as long as dickens haha

Im not so sure about ancient aliens and things around this area, I have spent a lot of time researching this topic but I think for me it is impossible to make my mind up as we know so little about human history, I mean you can barely even trust history from 500 years ago let alone 1000 years and beyond, the winners write history and tend to destroy the history of the defeated which leaves us with vast holes in history, the evolution of people, society and so much more. For all we know ancient aliens could be real it could be fake, humans may have just been vastly more advanced than we think or we are told.

Personally I lean toward the belief that ancient humans had advanced technologies but they used entirely different types of technology than we use, maybe they managed to harness sound or vibrations in a way we have not yet learned or were able to use simple things they had around them better than we can today. It is something we may never truly know but I sure would love to find out.

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