Series on Conditionalism, Part 3

in #conditionalism3 years ago

Let's pick up where my last post on conditionalism left off.

So far we have seen that, on conditionalism, the sinner appears to be able to discharge his own sin debt via his own sufferings, because he undergoes unpleasant experiences until God annihilates him, and of course, losing consciousness at the tail end of unpleasant experience is very obviously to be considered preferable to the ongoing continuance of said unpleasant experience.

We also compared this pseudo-atonement to the Roman idea of Purgatory and saw how the mechanism is the same.
Now let's consider a less-frequently discussed angle to both concepts, conditionalism and Purgatory. These sinners who did not cease from sinning nor repent nor place their faith in Christ during their earthly life… shall we consider that in whatever conscious existence follows physical death, these unrepentant sinners shall be holy in behavior, thought, and motivation? After living their whole lives unrepentant?

If so, did God monergistically regenerate them? When He did not do so during their earthly life? And then He's going to condemn to eternal destruction, regenerate people who are holy and repentant? Of course not.

So, these unrepentant sinners are not going to be holy after their physical death. But they will undergo some kind of unpleasant experience until their annihilation. Our conditionalist friends suggest this unpleasant experience will be prolonged/worsened in some way according to the sin debt they have accrued during their physical life, and then they are released from that unpleasantness into what is obviously relief - the passage from (temporary) conscious torment to total cessation of consciousness. (I pause here to remind all reading that the proposition that unconsciousness is NOT relief from torment is a very silly proposition.)

Get this, though - they never stopped sinning the whole time. They will continue to sin because they are not born again. So their sin debt will always be increasing. The pile of sin never diminishes. It grows. Thus, either their torment will never come to an end (ergo, ECT is true), or God will relieve sinners from their temporal purgations by the act of eliminating their conscious existence. Thus He leaves sin unpunished. The Judge of all the Earth will neglect to pour out wrath on the one who commits sin. The one in Roman Purgatory never gets to Heaven. The one in conditionalist "Purgatory" never is released from torment.

Either that, or God simply ignores a bunch of sin, leaving it unpunished, which is a central tenet of Islam and highly unbiblical, cutting to the very heart of the atoning death of Christ. I mean, if God is down for simply ignoring sin, why doesn't He just save everyone and the Son of God never even would have had to die for it?

I don't see any answers to these challenges. Previous comments on my and others' posts from knowledgeable conditionalists have not presented any answers, and neither have the numerous lectures by Fudge, Date, and others I've listened to. Until they provide answers that uphold the righteousness of God and the atonement of Christ, conditionalism should most definitely be avoided.

Acts 24:14-15 -

But I confess this to you, that in accordance with the Way, which they call a sect, I do serve the God of our fathers, believing everything that is in accordance with the Law and is written in the Prophets; having a hope in God, which these men cherish themselves, that there shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.

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