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amico (66)in #community • 5 years ago (edited)

That's really a good action: thanks for stopping violence so effectively!
Much love and compassion!

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valued-customer (67) 5 years ago

Words are not violence. Even if the account holder was indeed seriously making a death threat, censoring them is not preventing them from carrying out the threat. Furthermore, if the threat was serious, it was already made. No violence was prevented in that censorship action, even if you do consider words violence (except some theoretical future threat, which hasn't been made yet and may never have been).

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amico (66) 5 years ago (edited)

I understand that we have different visions and I respect your ideas.

I love Marshall Rosenberg and I follow his simple principles of non-violent communication: my experience is that it changes your world!

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@amico

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valued-customer (67) 5 years ago

I am not a fan of violence myself. However, the points I made aren't about being violent. Either the speech undertaken wasn't actual violence, or it was. If it was, muting the speaker afterwards didn't prevent violence, which had already occurred. However, speech isn't violence, it's communication. Since speech can't be violence, muting the speaker can't prevent violence.

Either way, no violence was prevented. I am a fan of factual reality, and prefer it non-violently. That's why no harm came to anyone or anything in the making of this comment. All my comments have that feature.

All comments do.

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sgt-dan (61) 5 years ago (edited)

I will neither upvote or downvote this comment yet I do find it necessary to respond. I am not familiar with International Law, but in the United States threatening life or limb is considered a terrorist threat. I quote Article 18 of the U.S. Code:

18 U.S.C. § 2332b(c)(1)(g) makes it a class C felony, punishable by 10 years imprisonment, for someone to willfully threaten to commit a crime that will result in death or great bodily harm; the threat is made with the specific intent that it be taken as a threat; the threat is so unequivocal, unconditional, and specific as to convey a gravity of purpose and immediate prospect of execution; the threat actually causes fear in the victim; and the fear is reasonable.

Sorry dude, in @themarkymark's and my Nation, it is the Law of The Land.

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valued-customer (67) 5 years ago

A threat of violence is not violence. It doesn't matter if it's against the law. Everything that is illegal isn't violence. My contention in this conversation is finite. I pointed out that no violence was prevented by muting. That was the limit of my claim.

Here's the relevant portion of my last response to @amico:

"Either the speech undertaken wasn't actual violence, or it was. If it was, muting the speaker afterwards didn't prevent violence, which had already occurred. However, speech isn't violence, it's communication. Since speech can't be violence, muting the speaker can't prevent violence."

"Either way, no violence was prevented. I am a fan of factual reality, and prefer it non-violently. That's why no harm came to anyone or anything in the making of this comment. All my comments have that feature."

"All comments do."

You do not respond to my claim. You have changed the subject. You're apparently claiming, if you're responding to what I actually said, that if something is illegal it is violence - or you're not responding to what I did say at all.

Do read what I said. Either respond, or state outright that you are going to change the subject, because that's what you did.

Please reconsider your comment.

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coininstant (66) 5 years ago

NOTE: This account @swelker101 keeps threatening me! @aggroad thanks! Can you please block him from flagging me, that is not fair!

My vote does not work on him, why should his vote work on me???

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https://www.palnet.io/steempress/@swelker101/ptzcl7

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Here is my letter to our Leader!

Hope she can help us all!
Hi @elipowell, this guy keeps threatening me, trying to antagonize me after I said I would not flag or bother anyone anymore if he/they stop!
I will stop flagging innocent comments, however when I see @swelker101 flagging me every time it makes me want to retalliate!

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Today they DDOS my replies on steemit so I can't see them!