When we stop blaming each other and see the actual hard work and dedication that this chain requires. Talks contribute a little on ground level and many of the suggestions don't even get attention. Sitting on the side line and blaming people in the mainstream wont going to work out. We all have to do this, we all have to understand this. @bobinson did a great job and he brings a lot of idea that can actually bring some value to this chain. Again the decision remains in the hand of top level.