Time will tell regarding ARISE. There are enough people claiming "scam" without evidence. These guys want/need to hold their info close to the vest and as a private business, they are entitled to. I can see how a community built around open source would react negatively to this strategy but at the same time, let's give them a chance and see if they can bring other assicated businesses up with them. I won't buy the coins from their ICO at $1.45 but I will buy them on the secondary market after all this FUD hopefully drives the price down and they show some actual working product.