From 1.12.2018 till today i made 29.12 STEEM on a 400 STEEM investment. And that is with buying BT tokens at a 40% higher price then theyre selling for now.First 200 staked at 1.12. and i think i staked the other 200 a few weeks later.
Well the payouts are in STEEM so the best comparison would be to that of SP curation payouts.
They cannot give you an ROI because it is either low or negative(they nor I want to do the math now). There is dillution of the token that nobody talks about until the break even.(which nobody has yet, I don't think). There is a google doc out there that lists all the stakes and it could help with research. I will have to look for it.
There is a dilution of 5000 tokens per month (2500 per period), not all of it makes it to the liquid market, tokens can only be earned by our developers and team members and some of them stake 75% or even 100% of what they earn.
The emissions are very low compared to other crypto, revenues should overtake emissions as BuildTeam projects mature and as the market becomes more bullish. It is a good idea to keep topping up on your staked amount, infact the BuildTeam token can be likened somewhat to the mechanics of the Drugwars.io game, the more you build up your base of operations the greater the share you get of the global production, incentive to keep building up your stake. Prices are ridiculously low right now.
I did stake back in 2017 and then un-staked it all recently. I was seeing the percentage of my stake slowly go down, even when re-investing the steem that I earned from the stake. Has anyone broke even on their "stake/investement" yet with the buildteam token? I do like the services being supported by the token, but some people are blindly going into this without true numbers. I was just pointing out to @cryptoeera that ROI has not been researched, or nobody has shown it yet.
BUILDTEAM tokens are basically a speculation on the future value of the services on the BuildTeam network and on the STEEM price, regardless of dilution, the income from the projects could prove lucrative in a bull market and earn good revenue for token holders.
If you consider dividend stocks, most don't yield more than a few percent per annum and and take many years to break even on dividends alone. Here is an example of some stocks that don't yield any more than 3% per annum http://www.indexarb.com/dividendYieldAlphan1.html, the break even on dividends alone on those stocks is more than 30 years.
You basically have to look at the BUILDTEAM token holistically, with overall benefits being staking revenue while still maintaining the original speculative token capital which could see higher values again just like the rest of crypto. There is no break-even data collated to date but I would guess it is way sooner than the 30 years of traditional stocks.
Even in the face of dilution, if app revenue exceeds the rate of dilution or if the STEEM price moons and increases the revenue value, the tokenholder is still nett positive.
If you look at some of the top stakeholders, many have made back more than their staked holdings in Steem.
The user roomservice is a good one, I remember that name from early on, they have approx 1200 BUILDTEAM and have earned 3 times that amount in STEEM since the token launch at end of 2017.
Sure. Your stake % goes down with more people staking. Thats very clear. The thing that gives the token value are the projects being built by the BUILDTEAM.
All that matters is that they continue to build more and more revenue streams.
The only problem is see occuring is them being too charitable with allocating the tokens to devs.
Question is if you trust Buildteam growing and being successful.
And after reading the analysis post again, they had just shy of 70 million BT staked. It is now up to 74 Million staked. I understand the 5000 being created per month. What is happening is creation of the tokens are too high, and the amount already distributed is high as well. I can see them growing and being successful, but at some point the tokens will be diluted so much, the investors will be holding the bag.
Nah its 74 000 not 74 million.
I did not know that inflation was that high.
Hmm. That means the number of tokens will double in 14 months from 74000 to 150 000.
Its almost 90% inflation.
No, I compare with all other Cryptos as well; because if I see a better return on my investment, I simply withdraw money from Steem and go to that Crypto. Understand?
Like lord butterfly says, it's kind of hard to give you a set figure when crypto is so volatile at this moment, but like all other crypto you need to take the chance and invest now and wait for the bull run so you can reap the rewards.
The payouts fluctuate but im getting around 5 times better returns then i get from curation here. (if i did the math correctly :) )
Sorry, but I need to know the average ROI to be able to compare with other Cryptos as well, not just with Steem.
From 1.12.2018 till today i made 29.12 STEEM on a 400 STEEM investment. And that is with buying BT tokens at a 40% higher price then theyre selling for now.First 200 staked at 1.12. and i think i staked the other 200 a few weeks later.
Well the payouts are in STEEM so the best comparison would be to that of SP curation payouts.
So if i stake BT token how will i get payout for stacking...can u please elaborate in details....
They cannot give you an ROI because it is either low or negative(they nor I want to do the math now). There is dillution of the token that nobody talks about until the break even.(which nobody has yet, I don't think). There is a google doc out there that lists all the stakes and it could help with research. I will have to look for it.
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Edit: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AiiI_zqwb4g37aiteoIiprStIYl2M_N4F0aETyfZ8K4/edit#gid=0
This is the google docs that shows all the stakeholders. You will want to read up on how the tokens are created/burned first to find out more of how the ROI is calculated.
This may interest you https://steemit.com/buildteam/@buildteam/buildteam-staking-performance-review-of-the-buildteam-token
There is a dilution of 5000 tokens per month (2500 per period), not all of it makes it to the liquid market, tokens can only be earned by our developers and team members and some of them stake 75% or even 100% of what they earn.
The emissions are very low compared to other crypto, revenues should overtake emissions as BuildTeam projects mature and as the market becomes more bullish. It is a good idea to keep topping up on your staked amount, infact the BuildTeam token can be likened somewhat to the mechanics of the Drugwars.io game, the more you build up your base of operations the greater the share you get of the global production, incentive to keep building up your stake. Prices are ridiculously low right now.
I did stake back in 2017 and then un-staked it all recently. I was seeing the percentage of my stake slowly go down, even when re-investing the steem that I earned from the stake. Has anyone broke even on their "stake/investement" yet with the buildteam token? I do like the services being supported by the token, but some people are blindly going into this without true numbers. I was just pointing out to @cryptoeera that ROI has not been researched, or nobody has shown it yet.
BUILDTEAM tokens are basically a speculation on the future value of the services on the BuildTeam network and on the STEEM price, regardless of dilution, the income from the projects could prove lucrative in a bull market and earn good revenue for token holders.
If you consider dividend stocks, most don't yield more than a few percent per annum and and take many years to break even on dividends alone. Here is an example of some stocks that don't yield any more than 3% per annum http://www.indexarb.com/dividendYieldAlphan1.html, the break even on dividends alone on those stocks is more than 30 years.
You basically have to look at the BUILDTEAM token holistically, with overall benefits being staking revenue while still maintaining the original speculative token capital which could see higher values again just like the rest of crypto. There is no break-even data collated to date but I would guess it is way sooner than the 30 years of traditional stocks.
Even in the face of dilution, if app revenue exceeds the rate of dilution or if the STEEM price moons and increases the revenue value, the tokenholder is still nett positive.
If you look at some of the top stakeholders, many have made back more than their staked holdings in Steem.
The user roomservice is a good one, I remember that name from early on, they have approx 1200 BUILDTEAM and have earned 3 times that amount in STEEM since the token launch at end of 2017.
Sure. Your stake % goes down with more people staking. Thats very clear. The thing that gives the token value are the projects being built by the BUILDTEAM.
All that matters is that they continue to build more and more revenue streams.
The only problem is see occuring is them being too charitable with allocating the tokens to devs.
Question is if you trust Buildteam growing and being successful.
And after reading the analysis post again, they had just shy of 70 million BT staked. It is now up to 74 Million staked. I understand the 5000 being created per month. What is happening is creation of the tokens are too high, and the amount already distributed is high as well. I can see them growing and being successful, but at some point the tokens will be diluted so much, the investors will be holding the bag.
Nah its 74 000 not 74 million.
I did not know that inflation was that high.
Hmm. That means the number of tokens will double in 14 months from 74000 to 150 000.
Its almost 90% inflation.
@thecryptodrive can you confirm this?
https://buildteam.io/tokens.php
More info here.
You basically get payed every 15 days to your STEEM wallet.
No, I compare with all other Cryptos as well; because if I see a better return on my investment, I simply withdraw money from Steem and go to that Crypto. Understand?
Sure. Thats the best i could do.
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Thanks for trying to explain it, as I just mentioned to @cryptoeera, there is a post on an analysis we did on payout https://steemit.com/buildteam/@buildteam/buildteam-staking-performance-review-of-the-buildteam-token I hope that helps.
Like lord butterfly says, it's kind of hard to give you a set figure when crypto is so volatile at this moment, but like all other crypto you need to take the chance and invest now and wait for the bull run so you can reap the rewards.
Hi @cryptoeera, it fluctuates depending on how much people use our services such as minnowbooster.net and how much revenue BuildTeam gets for that period, there is this post where we did some numbers on it https://steemit.com/buildteam/@buildteam/buildteam-staking-performance-review-of-the-buildteam-token