RE: Daily Dose of Sultnpapper 04/19/18 > With 30 years experience... how the little details can tell the story.
This is a cool premise for a post, and you follow through and deliver at high level of quality. You got my attention at “30 years of experience,” as that’s what I’m creeping up on in my own profession, and I’m just beginning to appreciate some of what that means. I don’t think we appreciate experience as much as we should, and perhaps that’s because we don’t necessarily appreciate age! On another note, I did a lot of reading about 911 a few years after, and I went down that path of conspiracy. I ended up coming back to a more conventional opinion on it, but what bothers me about the entire subject is that, in my opinion, there is just no way to know which approach carries more weight. I’m not a lazy researcher, and my balanced reading left me squarely in the middle. Is there any specific source that has convinced you of the conspiracy?
In my line of work I have a reasonable amount of interaction with professional engineers and architects on projects. I value what these professional have to say on this subject with very high regard. These are the people who design and engineer these high rise buildings.
When I first heard of the 911 event being a conspiracy I thought, "no way" and if so, it was a terrorist conspiracy for sure in my mind.
Then I came across the group, Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth. They don't take you down a path of conspiracy per say, but they do explain that the official government report on how and why the twin towers and building 7 came down is not worth the paper it was printed on because of all the errors that were made by NIST who did the investigation and prepared the report.
Never in the history of high rise buildings has a steel & concrete high rise building collapsed from fire as NIST's report claims to have happened until 911, and then three buildings on the same day collapse within 10 hours total time.
In any building failure there are protocol that needs to be followed in examining the building remains in order to determine the cause of the failure, in the case of 911 the protocol was not followed. For such a high profile disaster how could that happen is the first question that comes to mind for me.
Another red flag was that numerous fire fighters are on record saying that explosive charges were going off inside the twin towers. I have even watch videos that were taken that day where you could here the explosions while the television crews were interviewing fire fighters. Yet, the NIST investigators did not interview these fire fighters nor did they test any of the debris for explosive residue in the debris.
The NIST investigators said their report never went that direction because they knew the planes had crashed into the towers so what ever happened to bring the tower down had to be related to the impact and resulting fires.
The architects and engineers are very detailed in their assessment of the errors in the NIST report. The first glaring red flag is that no matter how much jet fuel were on those planes it could not have melted the steel structural beams that the buildings were constructed with, jet fuel does not burn at a high enough temperature to do that. All the office furniture and associated things that would be found in a typical office building also cannot burn hot enough either.
If you watch video that is readily available you can see streaming flows of molten steel running out of portions of the tower buildings before the collapse. There were also pools of molten steel even days after the collapse in the footprint of the collapsed towers.
Had Jihadist terrorists been the true cause of 911 every effort would have been made to document everything with i's dotted and t's crossed, the fact that the report is riddle with error and protocol not followed was the main reason I decided to keep looking, because if these mistakes and error's were made intentionally there could only be one other logical group that orchestrated 911 and the would be our own US government.
Since then I have from time to time come across things that help solidify my belief that it was in fact a government operation. Like this woman here, Rebekah, she explained a lot of things from her perspective as a flight attendant with 30 years experience. Things that untrained people like myself would not know about or would not think about simply because we don't have the knowledge and experience.
I would be curious to know the "more conventional opinion on it" that you keep ending back up at?
I will tell you that this is not a subject that is going to go away and just 10 days ago lawyers for the victims families filed a petition with the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York demanding that their office present evidence to grand jury for crimes committed involving the use of explosives in the 9/11 event in 2001 at the World Trade Center Complex. It is to early in the process to see how the US Attorney's Office is going to respond, but if they elect not to do anything, the lawyers will file for a writ of mandamus and force the process that way.
It’s Saturday night, so please excuse the lack of a more thoughful response, but this might be the single greatest response to a comment in Steemit history.
Well I was giving you a couple days to respond with something more,but it looks like this left your radar screen or you are just to busy. Either way no problem, it may be beneficial information for others to know. I'm still curious though on the "more conventional opinion" that you mentioned in your first reply, can you share that with us?
Thanks for the compliment on my response, it does take time and effort to do a good response and I think anyone who takes the time to read and ask questions is deserving of a decent response as there are plenty of posts to choose from to read and I'm honored when someone chooses one of mine.
Thanks,
@sultnpapper
Sorry for the delay. I was just mulling over what you wrote, and wondering how to respond. And busy! This is all very compelling info. I remember hearing some of what you shared about the impossibility of the collapse due to fuel, and the lack of investigation, interviews, etc. I really can’t remember all of the details that I read anymore. As far as “conventional” goes, I guess I just mean I ended up accepting that it was still somehow caused by the planes. But at the same time I’ve never been able to shake the idea that the President knew about it in advance, so I’m also contradicting myself. This probably sounds like a cop out, but as plausible or likely as the government operation theory might be, it just seems like we will never know, and there are a lot of other important issues that as a citizen I might actually be able to have some influence. The one thing most conspiracy theories seem to have in common is that we really are more or less powerless to bring any real light to them. So we can spend our time and energy on them, or on more “mainstream” issues. Like, for example, I attended a meeting this evening about three different absurd environmental bills that are sitting my governor’s desk, and how we can influence a veto on them. Because I feel like I need to be working on tangible issues, I’ve tried to convince myself to go along with the more mainstream opinions on things like 911. Does that make sense? I mean, in a way I know it doesn’t :), but you probably get what I’m saying. All that said, your comment definitely makes me want to stay tuned for updates, especially on details like the lawsuit you mentioned. So, thanks again! It’s refreshing to hear detailed thoughts in conversation here.
When they concocted that false flag event they knew that people seeing those planes hit the towers that was all they needed to convince 90% or more of the public, and the media kept replaying that video for weeks on end. The devil is in the details, and those have been well hidden away from the public, not one media outlet raised any concern over how that report was compiled.
Keep in mind that over 1700 registered professional engineers and architects have staked their professional careers on the line by joining in and signing that they disagree with the NIST report and they have nothing to gain except to set the record strait on what actually took place that day.
We as the public need to be demanding that every senator and congressman make this a priority to reopen an investigation. Attend a town hall meeting and ask questions of your elected officials or even ask the opponents of the sitting elected officials what their take is on it.
The thing that makes this so important is that over 3,000 Americans lost their lives that day and all the fingers seem to point at the government as being the culprit in this tragic event.
Hope your meeting helps with veto you are looking for.
I'll continue to follow this as time goes along, you can bet on that.