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You call them left. In Russia, we simply hate such leftists.China and Russia adhere to Lenin. Your Left Trotsky. Trotskyism is considered one of the varieties of left fascism. In case you win the Trotskyists. troops will be sent to help the US government. Your government is better than the Trotskyists.
Your left supports gay people. Lenin's ideology treats gays in the house of the mad.
The left is an institution of a traditional family. The Trotskyists are Femenism and other abominations.
Your left will not have support. They are our ideological enemies. Like a reflection in the mirror when the left changes to the right.

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The USG is pretty much Trotskyist. Collectivization continues to proceed apace, and individual freedom and prosperity is continually eroded by USG acts. It is often remarked that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and we see across the world strange political bedfellows, such as the CIA spawning ISIS and overthrowing Iraq, which acted as our proxy in the 80s war against Iran.

Russia certainly has conflicted interests in any civil uprising in the US, as Putin has stated on more than one occasion that the US is necessary to Russia's own ability to maintain it's sovereignty, but also undeniably undermines it.

In the event of a civil uprising against the US Trotskyist government, it will not be Trostkyists that revolt, but the right wing, with the government being supported by the Trotskyists.

In my estimation, Russia will profit more from increasing the destabilization of the US than it will profit from stabilizing it in such an uprising, but there is certainly room for improved understanding, and I may simply not understand all the politics involved. The USG in it's wargames believes Russia will support right wing rebels, and that's also what I believe.

Collectivization is the path of Marx and Lenin. To oppose collectivization is Trotskyism. Do you understand the meaning of this movement? Association of small farmers in a single system: land, machinery, fertilizers, working hands. The result is a huge profit. Profit is divided into 3 parts.
1 Improving the life of the village: a school for children, a pool, a cinema, roads, etc.
2 Production improvement: sausage shop, oil mill, milk packing shop, etc.
3 Profit sharing between community members.
For collectivization, it is forbidden to appropriate the results of another's labor. How much you have earned, how much you will receive. There are no intermediaries in the form of a capitalist who takes 80-90% of profit. Therefore, very high incomes and living standards.

Get into the USA? On either side, this is not possible! The US has nuclear weapons, intervention = nuclear war. Why do we need this? Putin is a politician. Any politician is a liar. This is dictated by the profession. Putin is a professional liar. One must believe in deeds, not words.

About the right wing is very funny. Your right is our left. Different economic decisions. Identical values. Family, conservatism, national interests.

The government can support the rebels only in words. Why do we need the victory of the revolution in the USA? The US government is leading us an aggressive but understandable policy. How the victorious rebels will behave is unpredictable. Better understandable opponent than unpredictable "ally".

How to explain? I do not want to offend, but I need to understand Russia. Russia empire with a history of more than 1000 years. We can be defeated. There are no winners. But our planning step is 100 years or more. Created by BRICS, Russia has already won the marathon. We just need to work, trade and wait. Why take the risk?

I understand that any rebels want support. But Russia is not a country of elves and unicorns. We have our own interests. If it was about Serbia, then unconditional intervention. Then we could risk a people, a country, and even a nuclear war. We have no such attitude towards the people of the USA. This is only one of the peoples of the world. No worse and no better.

"Collectivization is the path of Marx and Lenin. To oppose collectivization is Trotskyism. Do you understand the meaning of this movement?"

I confess I do not. Further I am confident I have spoken as a fool, and proved I do not understand the differences between those three, as I have a vague grasp that they are mere facets of communism, faces on the sides of an edifice.

Since I clearly do not understand, I should not speak. I am not a Russian, and all I know of Russia is that revealed to me by entities I distrust, and particularly distrust what they can tell me about Russia.

I do have some grasp of geopolitics, and should confine my remarks to what I do understand. Regardless of the political platforms of governments and rebels, they have geopolitical interests utterly separate from political platforms and labels, and Russia does have means of profiting from US unrest.

In USG wargaming, civil unrest inevitably results in Russian, and many other government's, support for rebel forces. This was my original point, which I should have stuck with. You clearly know much more than I regarding Russia, and Russian history, which I dare not argue with you about if I want to remain reasonable.

Thanks!

It saddens me, as you said about yourself. I did not question your mind. It is impossible to know absolutely everything. Moreover, I consider you a very smart person. However, in your calculations you forget about the cultural traditions and values of the peoples of the world.
Let's simulate a situation.

In the USA there was an uprising. There are riots, possibly fights. The SWIFT banking system stops working. The banking system of the BRICS countries - BRICS Pay is still not powerful enough. Because of this, Russia is stopping trade relations with the EU, the SCO, Iran, North Korea, Belarus, Finland, some countries of Latin America, Africa and Australia. Hundreds of billions of dollars in profits lost.
Civil war erupts in the USA ...
The dollar is rapidly depreciating. At this stage, there is no second reserve currency in the world.
China and the Federation are moving to the gold standard? Lost trillions of dollars in profit.
The results are equal to the economic losses of World War 2. The economic model of the world, you need to build from scratch! Of course, such a model will be built, but ...
How many of our companies simply will not survive such a crisis?

Russia's policy towards the United States has not changed since the 18th century. I can recall the words of Stalin in the 20th century or the words of Putin in 21.
We want to see the United States a wealthy country with peaceful trade goals. Which exchanges with other countries of the world resources and goods. Naturally deriving profit from this for its citizens.
We need a strong and wealthy USA. This is a scarecrow for the whole free world. The United States is afraid and seek help from Russia and the Russians.

I forgot to say the main thing. If in the end Russia defeats the United States, then it loses.
We need a 2-polar and more world. Imagine if the Russians defeated the United States and placed their rebels in the government. Our yesterday's ally, China, is becoming our enemy.
Now Russia is in a unique position.
China needs us for fear of the United States. And surprisingly, the US needs us because of fear of China.
The result can be caught in troubled waters. Ideally no interference in the affairs of China and the United States. If there weren’t nuclear weapons, then a mutual war of annihilation. When we are neutral.

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