Well you have to ask Where is the fundamental value? First he said he was going to a copy of etherium; then he said he was only looking for long term miners then he shut down all mining and is claiming to do EOS. A copy of etherium, could have real fundamental value, but shutting it down destroys all value. Value is created by a functioning blockchain. I saw wash trading early on in this project, and there were fundamental flags. Like why do an etherium copy and call it bitcoin. Why don't you have a lot of people in spanish speaking countries on the board. Why is the website not in spanish. These are very basic fundamental questions. then there were the donations to Jared. You say you are going to a have a fully SEC compliant blockchain and you are donating money to someone who was just shut down for running a scam? Do you think that might raise a few flags with stuffy government officials? But if you never truly intend to deliver, you don't have to worry about stuff like that....