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I feel that we could see big upward movement before then as well. Bull run confirmation is probably 8 months like you said, but prices will start increasing in prepration in the next month or two. We need to break some key points before anyone can say bull run!

Hope it will go possibly

This market is still so young. The technology alone is only 10 years old! lots of time for the early crypto participants.

Are you serious? 10+ yrs is a very long time in this tech space, the "early" crypto participants purchased at far far lower levels and have made % gains that will never be seen again even in the best case scenarios if crypto becomes widely successful and mainstream. It's too late, not early, hence the huge bubble bursting. IF it was "early" then my portfolio would not be down 75% while there have been more good news this year than all of crypto's history combined. The amount of selling heading back towards ATHs will be huge, I'm looking to break even someday if there is a huge rally.

I don't think you realize that these are global markets. There is so much money that has even been introduced to money! Yes, I say the technology is still very very new! Think about how long computers and the internet took to go mainstream! We will see new ATH in next 5 years, with a massive bull run to follow!

Yes, I think you’re right and in the meantime the big players are going to keep shaking the tree to get the ordinary investors out.

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