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RE: Delegate your STEEM Power to @haejin!!! Strength in numbers Against @berniesanders the THUG!! @randowhale is a SCAM!!

in #bitcoin7 years ago

@acidyo You mentioned you upvoted @haejin in the beginning... Why stop? Just cause he is making "too" much? The way I see it, If he is helping or I like the post, Im going to upvote. I think thats how the system was meant to be... Right?

Its not about who is making " too much" Its about who is GIVING THE MOST @haejin has helped me sooo much and so many other people... I do not care if he is making a million a week or $5 a week, if I enjoy his content or benefit from it I AM GOING TO UPVOTE, Just as I do for anything else.

Why dont you agree?

The thought of, "He is making too much"seems to be from jealousy... Right?
I mean, if someone is getting these votes he has a group that are enjoying his posts/content.

@haejin asks for upvotes and resteems and follows all the time so he can grow... EVERYONE DOES THAT...

theres always going to be someone making more than others... What if he creates 5 accounts splits up his content and tells his followers to follow all 5 and upvote all of them... then will you be happy? @berniesanders
From what I see you have alot of accounts, correct? How come you dont look at the amount you make combined on steemit and compare it to @haejin ?

Everything should flow naturally and the fact that theres people trying to play cops and robbers and chase down whoever doesn't abide by their rules is weird, childish and petty. Not to mention unnatural. To be jealous or hateful because someone is making alot? cmon man. What if theres 5 of him? all doing the same thing getting huge rewards? 5 different accounts... then you ll be taking even more time out of your day to sit there and downvote everything and scroll through and comment and use all your accounts and ask others for help and all of this back and forth?

@berniesanders if .6% or 6% or what ever it is, is too much. What is a fair amount for someone that posts 10-15 times a day, answers sooo many questions, helps out everyone with their charts, accepts 1 on 1 coaching from anyone who needs help at a CRAZY cheap rate.

What is his time worth alone? then his wisdom and knowledge?

WHAT do you think is a "fair reward %" ?? and how come YOU get to choose what is "fair"??

You can try with @haejin, but more will come and more and more. then what? its too much time, too much drama. were all full grown men for the most part I assume. Lets start acting like it.

Can we all just chill out?

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The reward pool is percentage based. So the fact that @haejin is making this much money takes away from all the other users who provide quality content. If you think @haejin's posts are good and worth what.... $1000 dollars of rewards a day? Then you can keep upvoting.

If you look at the top reason for flagging, 'disagreement on rewards' then you should see that these people flagging are totally justified. I disagree that @haejin makes $1000 a day and I think it is way more than should be made. Therefore I flag. Just because you think it's fair he makes this much doesn't mean others agree with you.

how does it take away from them?? so if I dont upvote haejin because I see he has too much already... then you expect me to go to someone else and upvote them? I only listen to @haejin. I upvote others about other very good stuff they post. but in terms of Technical analysis of cryptos I only listen to @haejin...

SO, if I dont upvote haejin and I read his analysis... then I leave the site and go back to trading... who benefits?
No one got my upvote... meaning i didnt participate in the reward pool.

The way I see it, hes not TAKING MONEY AWAY... hes brining new money in. Right?

Alot of people join because of haejin. So the reward pool consists of a portion of people that came simply because of haejin... now alot of these people can and will start exploring steemit more and upvoting more people and participating more towards steemit. without @haejin posting a think a big portion of this 8K followers would not be here on steemit.

So if he leaves alot will leave... then the reward pool gets smaller.

So if he leaves alot will leave... then the reward pool gets smaller.

Well, no. It would get bigger. It would actually stay the same, but everybody's piece would get bigger. So, for example, the reward pool is 695,419 Haejin is taking 1% of that, he leaves 99% of that for the rest of the communtiy. Doesn't seem that bad, right? Well, there are currently 351,489,308,504,710,000 (that's 351 quadrillion) claims on that reward pool. So a 1% pull from a single user is tremendous.

The way I see it, hes not TAKING MONEY AWAY... hes brining new money in. Right?

No. The reward pool stays the same whether he is here or not. We could argue that the more users on Steemit the more Steemit will rise in value, but it could also be argued that if Steemit is seen as an unfair place it could cause Steems value to lower.

SO, if I dont upvote haejin and I read his analysis... then I leave the site and go back to trading... who benefits?
No one got my upvote... meaning i didnt participate in the reward pool.

Everyone on Steemit has an opportunity and a responsibility to direct the reward pool funds. You can do this by upvoting, downvoting, or abstaininig. @acidyo gave a good example of abstaining. The scenario you mention above would also be abstaining. The community at large benefits because their voice carries a little more weight because you didn't vote. Picture it this way. Your mom gives you and two of your friends the ability to spend 12 bucks at a casino. And tells you to decide where to spend it. She didn't give you each 4 bucks, she just gave you the ability to choose how it's spent. So each of you have equal say over 4 bucks. Friend 1 says put .25 here, friend 2 say put .85 here. You decide you don't want to put the effort into figuring out which game would be best and say you'd rather just go to the pool. Now your friends have control over 6 bucks each.

That 12 bucks is the reward pool and haejin represents a single game a the casino with 351 quadrillion games. In terms of overall benefit of steemit, many of your friends don't think putting so much of our funds into a single game is a good idea.

Well maybe you're an odd case then. Many people actually vote for a variety of people, and don't just vote for one person. If you vote for @haejin everyday, then that means your voting power goes down by so much that your votes on people other than @haejin will be worth less.

If you only use your votes on @haejin, then you are the odd case here. In your case, and if you think @haejin really deserves that much, you may as well continue voting for him. But once again, you are an exception, not the norm.

And you're right, he is bringing new money in. But, this whole stupid war is also meaning that his percentage of the pool is much larger than it should be. Is the amount of people he's bringing in really enough to balance the reward pool percentage he is hoarding? I have no stats so I can't say, but I have my doubts.

If he leaves then I would be happier, because I big whales and minnows alike would be wasting less voting power here and on Bernie and actually curating as normal again.

You need to read on pool reward. You don't grasp the concept of steemit yet ...

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