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RE: The Next Generation BidBots: A Proposal
I think more people should spend time writing and curating good quality content, interacting with communities and commenting on posts rather than spending their time and money synthetically boosting the value of their own posts with bots
The perpetual Steemit argument.... :)
Using bots is the best way to get some kind of exposure for a minnow outside networking and the regular Steemit dynamics. Once you earn some SBD you have a couple options:
One choice is the obvious one if you want to invest in the platform. Youre not actually earning any more $$$, but you are getting bigger numbers on your posts attracting followers to curate, you are getting a better listing on taggs and exposure.
Consider you write a 3 page post (like i did the other day) that takes you 2-3 hours to write and research and as a minnow you dont have many engaging followers.
Who is going to see it? Not many people.
But you want your work to at least get you something. Thats where bots come in.
After that post i made a couple posts with just photos, that took me all in all 3 minutes to make. They got almost as much attention as the large post.
See, bots allow me to post content that takes a lot of work because i can always rely on getting something for my work.
This is my point of view. I understand others exploit but bots have a legit use.
You produce great content, proven by the fact that you got a curie vote for your excellent music piece. Totally understand where you are coming from though and I have no argument for talented people who put the effort in using bots to get some reward.
As i kind of alluded to in other posts, it would be wonderful IF we could have a platform where we didn't need bots, and groups similar to curie, MSP etc could curate good content with enough SP to make a difference to lots of people. That's not going to happen in the near future though and bot abuse is always going to be rife on here.
I guess it's just a pipe dream of mine. Im pretty sure you are going to be a great success on this platform, as will most people if they put in the effort. It's really hard work.
Well i intend to put in work above all else. And eventually and hopefully i wont need to use bots to upvote my posts. Ill have a built audience. Most of the people i talked to that are just starting out share the same sentiment.
Yes i got lucky with that Curie post and im beyond grateful i have a whale account following and encouraging my progress on Steemit. Not everyone is so lucky though.
Hello @markangeltrueman to post a high quality content you need a lot of time it doesn't matter i have it
But the problem is even if you post a good one people are not interesting and not upvoting so you always need support from bots this my opinion . thank you:) :)
Well i'm certainly not going to upvote any poster than consistently uses bidbots, and nor are any of the people/guilds that are looking for high quality content. Those are the people that have the power to give minnows the exposure they deserve in an organic way and you are losing any chance of gaining that genuine exposure by the consistent abuse of bots.
This is my opinion
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It may be possible to run a "mixed strategy": using whatever earning potential arises within steemit to then support further minnows. That is the aim of the new MAP Rewarder.
Everything that has a net outflow of funds - however well-intentioned - must rely on either investors or delegators or some income-generation, otherwise its voting power becomes limiting.
Is the MAP rewarder a human curation team? If there is a group of people using leased SP to upvote quality content then I am all for that and this platform needs more of that. My question would be, "should I lease SP to a service that offers upvotes for payment" In this case, could it be that it would be used to upvote content of questionable quality. I want to be confident that the SP im leasing out is only used to upvote quality content.
Hi, as you know from being a MAP member, upvotes on their own have a limited supply. I do not have the luxury of 100-500k SP to make a significant difference to someone's post rewards, hence MAP itself (and me in particular) have leveraged knowledge to help minnows make themselves visible in their best niches.
I have used the analogy before that that kind of curation work is akin to a digital content agent. But that agent needs to find a publisher for the writer. And publishers do not have only one department; literary fiction or popular science rarely make much money compared to pulp, but the profitable sides support the less profitable creative or speculative works.
So, I will upvote the pulp only because it makes a profit that can further support upvoting curated content.
this is the point even if the content is high quality you will not upvote just because he is using bots i really don't understand why???
It should be different like for example if you see a good content you directly upvote it without checking who else give upvote
Like what i did in this post for mr @rycharde
I will upvote high-quality posts that have little or no reward, as will the likes of curie. Post with small votes from the likes of minnowsupport have always been supported by curation guilds. However, posters who are consistently using bidbots to the tune of 30SBD per post would be exempt from that kind of reward.
If you are here for the financial rewards alone then fair enough. I, and many others are here for the community aspect and that sort of thing is very hard work. Its taken me 6 months of real devotion to this platform to make any kind of inroads but now im starting to feel the benefit.
thank you bro nice talking to you all the best
I personally refuse to use "pay to play" upvote bots, I hope that my #steemitnovel can grow organically. It may take a bit more time but, the fruit of which I hope is much sweeter in the end. No hate on those who do use them, the temptation of which is hard to pass up. As a sign of goodwill I'm upvoting, I'm not trying to make any enemies here. Just stating my personal opinion.
Another potential community (for the new communities feature) in the making. I love finding great novels for curie, it's one of my favourite curation subjects. Keep up the good work.
I generally agree. However, Steemit lacks a very important feature: distribution. Good articles rarely reach their target audience. So, the only way a good blogger is left with to make sure his post reaches as readers as possible is to buy up-votes.
Of course, I am not defending those people who buy upvotes for a low-quality post. That is abuse indeed.
I think that you will find that will change with the upcoming communities features. It is something i'm really excited about and will hopefully get good content noticed and remove the need for as many bots.