ok whoops i see how so yep book through an agency by walking in off the street :))) or perhaps fly to Russia with an invitation then book there paying in Roubles, my sisters friends wife is Russian her name is "Irina" so she would have family in Russia :)) not sure where but ill look into it, im in New Zealand a long way away, anyways thanks for the info it all helps us plan the path we choose to walk :))) cheers :)))