Thank you @ehabfox, I hope you can try the pens out, I will check out your art. The key to good art is practicing drawing, you know learn the basics. There are a ton of youtube videos that are excellent, I've watched at least a dozen showing beginning artist how to draw basic shapes, shadowing and perspective. Infact, now that I am writing this I think I will try working on some anatomy drawings, I suck at drawing the human form...mine always look really stiff and I haven't got the math, you know geometry of the body. It's all about math when you draw forms...the eyes line up with the ears, nose, mouth...etc that is what gives the face our unique personality.