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RE: Steem delegation application form
Why are you even asking for delegation? Didn't you leave steem just live dlive? You don't even use this chain anymore!
2 million unique monthly visitors? No way you have that.
Look, I don't hate you guys, but your site is horribly broken, you left steem, and you've had years to improve literally anything but nothing got done.
I'm not really feeling this request
Hi,
We very much do still use the Steem block chain.
You can verify this by using the site while only being logged into your Steem account.
The reason we've resorted to implementing our own chain is that the Steem offering did not provide the required flexibility that we were looking for. For example, we feel it important that video creators are rewarded much beyond the limit imposed by Steem and our rewarding mechanism is also something which is similar to but not possible under Steem.
It's a shame you feel the site is broken, we obviously don't, but we'd be happy to listen to where your finding issue and perhaps we can see where you feel we could improve. User feedback is vital (both positive and negative) and is almost always welcomed.
I don't understand what is missing on Steem. If the numbers you've provided on monthly visitors and user growth are real then there would be plenty of opportunities for you to monetize that traffic of which a portion of the external value that flows in gets added to the reward pool in the form of liquid STEEM tokens. Which can be distributed in whatever way you or the userbase finds fitting.
This isn't so much an issue with the user base and growth, while we have had issues with users gaining steem accounts, our primary concerns were related to on-going monetisation of users content (past 7 days), having a single liquid asset which would provide the basis for voting power and an ability to provide an uncapped voting asset.
We also took issue with the rampant use of "bidbots" and other activities which are almost encouraged in the steem environment. Through the remove of "delegation" features we are able to combat that and we can ensure that votes are cast by users as opposed to being paid for.
This isn't an issue of monetisation, as stated, it's an issue of flexibility and of the operations provided by the chain.
It's not only about what's missing, it's also about what isn't working as expected. I wrote a long article about that : https://steempeak.com/dtube/@heimindanger/the-core-concepts-of-dtube-s-new-blockchain
How? You want me to put ads? You want me to sell users data? Send aggressive mailing lists? Sell them Mene gold? Promote scammy ICOs? Honestly you're not the first to pretend that but I honestly think you have no idea about either the vision behind the project or the way 'monetizing trafic' works.
And yes we already onboarded tons of people onto steem through the years, probably more than any other UI apart from steemit. And sadly a large % of those many people got lost during the 2 weeks onboarding process. And even those who got past it, we lost most of them because of price and because the mechanisms just suck. Content is artificially boosted, top contents are not quality, community is just looking to earn.
Thanks for the reply. I will provide a more long-form answer to your question about monetization that is still aligned with dtubes vision (one that I mostly share and have supported). And yes, I agree with the last concerns. Although I think this can also be worked around on Steem.
I get not wanting to put ads, but funding through merch sales... yikes
People are supposed to host their own content.I don't understand the complaining here, just Fork DTube and build a true p2p system. If you are unsure. Funding can be had through donations of course, or you can build a paid app and a free app. Paid application has more features. Fairly simple to do.
doesn't matter how "fairly simple to do" it all is, no one wants an alternative to youtube if they gotta pay for it, that business idea will fucking tank, HARD.
also, the idea of having people host their own content is a bit iffy, but more feasible. and don't just counter with the "fork your own version" bs, i'm not the one asking for delegation. Why can't I post valid criticism? seems like something we should want, no, NEED, when people ask money.
"I don't understand what is missing on Steem."
Steem only believes in 2 million Steem delegation for video, they clearly don't believe video is the future. That is why more flexibility is needed, you need a more liquid reward system that goes all into video
half of the videos just straight up don't play or take ages to load. I don't have gigabit internet, but it's pretty damn good.
If you're on your own chain, and you only use stteem for account login, do you really deserve delegation from steemit?
Our video delivery is working very well for some time now. Are you sure you aren't on 'Source' quality by default or something like that? Put yourself on 480p and everything will load fine.
If you are on source it would explain why some don't load, as the source files are sometimes not web-compatible.
Some of the videos load ok (takes a while, maybe roughly 8 seconds to start, but that's perfectly reasonable for a startup like yours), others are really bad and that's at 480
You are aware you compare to YouTube that is 15 years old? It took YouTube 5 years to launch 480p
Are you comparing to 2004 Internet? Agreed that good things take time but you really think that comparison still flies?
You think my 2004 iPad Pressario was somehow comparable to my 2019 phone?
There were many other issues in 2004 when it came to video.
"I am aware I compare to YouTube"?
WHAT?
Where did I make this comparison, I literally gave them leeway for being slow, lol, wtf?
You must have a bad Internet or something, of course you compare to YouTube as its the only other video site, and you need perspective, 15 years is YouTube
Most stuff is loading okay
You don't even use this chain anymore!uh wat? Bro don't fucking use your keyboard when you're drunk
you should stick to being a developer, your PR customer responses are trash
You come here and comment with total lies? How do you want me to respond? You're a fucking liar trying to discredit my project. You deserve no PR answer.
Try to name the lie I said. When I mentioned you don't use this platform, you only use it for account sign in. How the fuck does that bring any value to steem when people can just create an account using your other method.
Seriously, go ahead, try, use this opportunity to educate people on how you're actually providing value to steem. You don't disperse steem, you don't need a steem account, you don't store shit on the chain, try me bro, try it.
You obviously haven't even tried the product, you make quick assumptions and you believe you are right.
Any video posted gets posted to steem. Any comment too. Any vote too. How exactly is that just 'using it for log in' ?
You are going further and further into the lies, and I already know people like you never admit they were wrong. Adios
i'm actually pretty fine with admitting when I'm wrong no point not to, everyone else sees your wrong might as well go ahead and admit it
as for you claims, so if i don't make a steem account, but instead create an account through dtube site, I don't now own a steem account, correct?
so when I just embed a youtube video onto dtube, how does that get posted to steem?
same with comments, votes, whatever
Hello @okiedokieboy,
Let's try to be factual on your legitimate question:
Put in another way: Steem will benefit from new DTubers, and DTube benefits from Steemians.
So why oppose DTube and Steem, whereas they two decentralized projects helping one another?
Because they do not understand how free software works. How they are given a gift of free code to do whatever they want with. They are used to being enslaved by google and think we are the next master. That's not the case.
Ok, I was misinformed about account creation, I thought you could bypass creating a steem account, thanks for letting me know clearly unlike @heimindanger having a temper-tantrum.
as for point #2, are you saying that every post I make through dtube gets uploaded through steem? so I'd earn DTC and STEEM for each post?
if so, curious as to what purpose DTC will serve? once i get these coins, why are people gonna buy them from me, what's their value?
How? Can you show me how? Because you can't...
You are talking out of your ass. Your are BOLDING LIES and you compare me to a LINO scum. FUCK YOU AND I HOPE YOU DIE
didn't "compare" to lino, I just mentioned them.
jesus christ, even if i was a bold-face liar or troll or whatever, the fact that you literally just said that shows you're either legit psychopath or just mentally retarded. Are you inhuman, or just have the maturity of a 5 year old watching too much cartoons?
Pathetic response, you should learn how to not only engage with customers, but humans in general. you seem like the worst kind of person to hang out with, the type of friend who kills the entire vibe of a situation, the type of dude nobody fucking wants to be around cause you just scream like a little baby when met with the tiniest bit of pushback.
"I hope you die", how fucking sad bro, really fucking pathetic.