The decision made to change Shun’s gender in Netflix’s Saint Seiya series might be more sinister than you think

in #anime6 years ago (edited)

Lately, the Netflix anime trailer for the Saint Seiya remake dropped, and people aren’t happy. The CG animation looks way too clean for a series known for its glorious shounen violence and the tone gives off the vibe of a western series for children. Perhaps, the biggest news of all is Andromeda Shun’s gender swap, who’s now a girl instead of a boy unlike the original. Now, this is isn’t new with the series since the 2014 Saint Seiya CG movie, Legend of Sanctuary also turned Scorpion Milo into a woman.

But Shun is part of the main cast, not a one-off villain, so the fans went livid over this. He’s a beloved character for 3 decades across the globe, and changing his gender was a slap to the face of the majority of Saint Seiya fans. In an attempt to calm them down, the writer on the series, Eugene Son explained his decision. His tweets are long on the subject, and you can take it as you will. But essentially, he wanted more female representation in the main cast of Saint Seiya. He acknowledges that there were strong female characters already like Marin and Shaina but they didn’t go on adventures together with the rest of the male-dominated group.

So why not create another character then instead of ruining one that existed already? His answer is quite baffling. He thought he couldn’t write a new female character that would have meshed well with the main cast.

Fan outrage has reached critical levels as the Netflix trailer received more downvotes than upvotes. Naturally for many, this just reinforces a trend of social justice warriors ruining everything they touch.

However, thanks to a French YouTuber who spoke on the subject, this is probably not the whole story. Take what I say here with a grain of salt, as we’ll probably never know, but the SJW narrative just doesn’t make sense. Shun in the original series and manga was an effeminate man who was soft, compassionate and didn’t want to hurt anyone, not even his enemies. He defied male stereotypes way ahead of his time when everyone else in his team would bash their enemies’ head in. I’m pretty sure the writer must have known this, and yet went ahead and changed his gender anyway.

The cold sinister truth might be that they didn’t want an effeminate man as part of the main cast, especially if this new series is aiming for North America, a country where some of the world’s greatest anime hits like Saint Seiya and Captain Tsubasa never caught on. Think about it, American kids wouldn’t want to buy toys of an effeminate boy, but a strong fighting woman? It’s a far easier pill to swallow and sell. For all the progressive posturing we hear from the American media these days, another part of the country is pretty damn conservative, and this reboot was probably an attempt to appeal to them.

So, is Eugene Son lying? Maybe it was a compromise between him and some execs? If what I said turned out to be true, then this would probably be really sad and sinister move on their part. It would mean that they were scapegoating the political left for commercial purposes.

I would like to believe this was just a misguided attempt at progressivism in media and that Eugene Son is a daft writer, but the possible alternative is even worse, that it was some coward’s exec attempt at commercialising the series further and that the writer was simply shielding himself with the progressive label to hide an even uglier corporate truth.



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I bet girl shun will fit into the angry rebelious tree hugging teenager stereotype. Watching a beloved character getting "boxed", as @veryspider might say, is saddening. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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Boxing people into narrow boxes is silly.

A man can be a man without having to be super buff. Asian men get shat on from great heights on a regular basis because most Asian men are not the typical 6'5" muscular blond Viking gods....

Why?

Doesnt make Asian men less of a man, imo.

They really made the wrong decision with regards to Shun's gender swap.

(PS. SJWs are not bad people. There's always the loud ones that ruin the label for most labels. Like, how 'adult anime fans' are usually seen as 'loserly' by the mainstream population. I'm sure adult anime fans can be decent people, but there's always the loud ones that caricaturizes a subset of people.)

First: This was a really well written and interesting article! It's amazing to see this situation from two completely different angles.

Second: I think the "unmanly asian man" is more a problem of representation then actual "real asian men".
If you look at popular entertainment like games, pop idols, anime there is a strong focus on "youth" in japanese media for any gender.
Now if you look at the latest western Blockbusters like Red Dead Redemption 2 or Aquaman or whatever: the protagonists are somewhere past 35. The mature Ex-Cop/Marine/Father is a staple of western action cinema/games.
You can, however find quite a few muscular buff guys as secondary characters in anime/manga/games, sooo tl;dr: I'm sure there are a huge diversity of people including manly men, we just don't get to see them, because of "beauty ideal bias" (the classic beauty ideal of historical chinese emperors proves my point). :-)

While I'm not really a fan of boxing people in either, I think it should be noted 'SJW' wasn't a label people originally took on themselves. It was a label someone started calling a certain type of feminist, so it was an insult to begin with, not a group.

Eventually some started taking the label on, and eventually there were people seeing it for the first time used by the people it was originally made to insult. So it's possible here you are both looking at the term differently. :p

Honestly I don't think there is any reason to think it has something more to do with wanting it to be more inclusive like he said, it reeks of a lot of the same problems that other shows like this have, they care more about promoting a message or agenda then they do about creating a compelling story.

I think the fact they picked the most effeminate man to swap genders is pretty indicative of that, they swapped the one that they felt would take the least amount of effort. You don't have to think much about how to make a character appeal more female when they already have some typical aspects of femininity about them anyway.

It'll probably turn out to be terrible for the same reason something like the Ghost Busters Reboot was terrible, not because it's inherently a bad idea but because making a great show was a secondary aspect.

The fact he said he couldn't come up with a new character that would mesh well with the main cast I think speaks to that as well.

It's only inclusive when it's more profitable that way.

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