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RE: The TRUTH About Open Borders Vs. Closed Borders! (With Adam Kokesh)
You must be the guy breaking into all your neighbors houses every night. Or is government stopping you from doing that?
You must be the guy breaking into all your neighbors houses every night. Or is government stopping you from doing that?
Think. 99% of folks are not the issue. Government force is needed for the 1% of folks who are sociopaths, psychopaths, or just plain poor at thinking. LOL
The free market already has a solution for that, its called private/community security. Which has been proven to be more effective at stopping crime than government. But with time we might have even better solutions, once we free up our resources to confront what is causing that 1% to even exist.
Whose going to be paying for all that and what would be the difference if we pay that through taxes or out of pocketed income.
The difference is that private security companies would be voluntary, and you wouldn't necessarily need to hire them. You can't turn down the "services" of the government, though. They are compulsory.
That only works if you have enough volunteers. Most people work and don't want to come home to do voluntary security patrols. There will also be people who will take advantage in gang controlled areas...how do you think the folks that live in those area's are going to feel when the gangs run out the volunteers. Just way to many different scenario's that would play out to make such a endeavor impossible.
Voluntary does not mean done by volunteers... It means done without using coercion and the threat of force.
The only difference from the society we live in today, and a voluntary society is "Taxation is Theft." Thats the only difference, please read Adams 100 page book if you still don't understand.
I see lots of societies with taxation, that are doing OK. Some are thriving.
I don't see any society working without taxation? Any idea why? Have you thought deeply about what your utopia would really be like?
If your utopia is so wonderful and so obvious, why doesn't it exist already?
Taxation isn't theft if you have representation. Do some research on the system in Switzerland for taxing. Still theft in your view?
No one but you thinks that it will be utopia, a free society will have plenty of struggle and chaos. Life itself creates challenges we all must face in an ever changing world. Maintaining the status quo creates more violence because humanity is constantly improving and evolving.
Show me a civilization that has survived/maintained totalitarian control forever. Empires always fall, usually for the same reason. Freedom! Thomas Jefferson knew there would be revolution every time power and control over reached its limits.
The swiss tax system full of holes just like its cheese. 35% income tax that if you don't pay you go to jail... Yup still theft.
Societies do not thrive because of taxes, they thrive because of markets.
To think that widespread parasitic disease is necessary to the health of an ecosystem is rather absurd.
For the government to stop the 1%, they need to force the rest of us to pay taxes?
That makes a lot of sense... Yeah...
You are confused by the massive amount of excess government, into thinking that ZERO government is the answer.
Let's try a simpler experiment first. Federal government stops doing 80% of things it is currently doing, that are over reaches of its initial mandate.
And taxes will go way down, and government will be left performing only the mandatory basic functions.
I'll take government running the National Guard over your system of lots of little mobs fighting for territory.
If you want to go live in Mad Max country, lots of squabbling between well armed gangs fighting wit bullets to protect their territory, you should just move to Chicago and leave the rest of us alone.
Your utopia with no effective central government officials that want to enforce the peace, lots of weapons on the streets, whoever has the most bullets is in power ALREADY EXISTS. It is called Chicago. Go live there.
Enjoy your utopia !!!
Created courtesy of Obama, Rahm, and several decades of Democratic corruption.
The government running a nanny service isn't going to convince anyone that they are worth paying taxes. If the government didn't abuse their power and go around fucking people over all the time, then no one would be afraid to skip paying their taxes, and the government would collapse. I am only taking the logic to it's necessary conclusion. It is not about the amount of government, it is about whether or not the exchange is done voluntarily. Government is inherently coercive, and therefore unethical and impractical. I am not confused in the slightest.
Also I didn't realize Chicago was anarchist... The police are the biggest gang, in case you didn't know.