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RE: As Anarchists, what is our END GAME? Extending an olive branch to ALL anarchists.

in #anarchy7 years ago

Anarchy as a system is a utpoian ideal that has one basic flaw to ever seeing it realized. (and paradoxically, the same flaw as communism).

It doesn't take into consideration the human being.
And 4% of those human beings are psychopaths, sociopaths, and extreme narcissists ( essentially the people steering the shit ship, we all now find ourselves in).

These are facts that will always stop a utopian anarchy. Power will be sought by some, to exert over others. Force.
Those with power and charisma will exert influence of those humans that like to have leaders, and thus avoid responsibility.
Those humans who want power and have influence over those that want leaders , will use force against others...and so the cycle begins...again.

The rest is a matter of scale.

History says exactly what I laid out to be true, from the Sumerians 2600bc to present day.

Anarchy is a fantastic ideology. Ideologies always fail when they meet real life.

Pragmatism is the way forward - embracing anarchy principles in the smallest, loosest, frame work of self protection (ergo some leadership in some form or other. Pre empire roman republic kind of thing, possibly...)

Conflict is being human. It's being a natural being. Every other animal exhibits it on this planet, why should we be exempt?

my perspective anyway...

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I appreciate your perspective, even though I may disagree.

Anarchy as a system is a utpoian ideal
These are facts that will always stop a utopian anarchy.

I don't ever recall saying anarchy would lead to utopia. It won't.

Conflict is being human. It's being a natural being. Every other animal exhibits it on this planet, why should we be exempt?

In fact, I agree with this premise. There will always be conflict of some sort.

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I'll err on the side of non-guaranteed violence and would defend my self and others from those who seek to use force against us.

😂 😂 - thought the guy in the quote box was Micheal Moore! 😂 😂
...good quote, micheal!

I don't ever recall saying anarchy would lead to utopia. It won't.

fair enough, but reading a lot's the anarchy posts - it does seem to come across a lot like that..

there are a lot of people who think "oh boy, without the state I would be trouble-free" when that really is not true. There are plenty of problems we have as a result of a statist structure (state monopolies, taxation, regulations of private property and commerce etc.), but there are obviously tragedies inherent in life itself. All of that is to say that anyone who thinks changing 1 thing will solve all their problems is dead wrong.

ha, I don't think Michael Moore has said anything, or done anything, to warrant me using him as any positive example....except maybe for the fact that he is pro-socialism yet makes movies and sells them for a profit. Socialist in name, capitalist at heart.

...it did throw me, for a moment! lol

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