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RE: The police state for us good folk

in #anarchy7 years ago

Michael:

Hypothetically, when Adam wins, and we see "Split 50!", do you envision Anarchos staying all spread out across the map and within the borders of the several states? Or do you see them doing an Anarcho version of the Free State Project? ...or Free County Project? Even a Free Village Project? ...in order to garner some synergy.

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When Adam wins, our country will start to self heal. markets will go back into testing phase instead of "protected by govt". Ideas that don't work will get dropped to make way for ideas that will work. The anarchists will get what they want and the socialists will get what they want. These two ideas will compete in a free market. Theories will be tested instead of merely speculated. Then we will evolve.

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While I agree wholeheartedly with what you posit, you actually avoided answering my question. In the process of reaching this "evolution" in the poli-sci department, what do you believe will be the strategy of the Anarchos, as you envision? Stay where you are? or work target locations? (which can actually be done by erecting Agora points with time-share units). I do NOT believe our nation will "self-heal" unless the currency counterfeiters high-tail out of here and head to Izzzzreeeeeal for sanctuary.... and even then, I believe it will take a concerted effort from libertarians "nailing the coffin shut". Do you really believe the New World Order orchestrators are just going to give up on the progress they have made here since Andrew Jackson, and then Martin Van Buren left office?

Good Question! The real answer is.. do people in this country have enough balls to handle a system that is so foreign to way they've lived all of there life. The only thing here that is remotely free is the internet, which you have to pay for, and then it's censored after you've payed for it. Will anarchy spread out and consume part of the country? all of the country? even just a small piece? Who knows? Do the masses have enough balls to just stop paying taxes? Do they stop supporting a system that has been terribly broken for many years now? I don't think so.. Do you think Adam will actually win? I doubt it.. Don't get me wrong, I'll be voting for him, on a broken system that has the outcome predetermined. So I can say I did my part, but is that going to solve anything? Until the masses actually make a change in there own life, stop participating in the broken system, and therefor force the change, nothing will change. The system can't be fixed within the broken system, it has to come to a complete dissolution and start over. History has always repeated itself in cycles over and over again. My prediction is that this is the very beginning of the change that will take a good many years yet to come. Like you say, the "powers that be" aren't going to just lay down, and the people haven't yet come to the realization that they control everything. This is a cooperation among every person in every country in the world, when we quit cooperating the system grinds to a halt. Everyone is waiting for the right person to come along and make the "great change" that each and every person has to make for themselves. When the change finally takes place, it will be all or nothing, everywhere or nowhere. How fast can people wake up here...1913, it's been over one hundred years now.. Good Question!

Agreed, there is no way the system will change by itself, not meaningfully anyway. Some small concessions will and are being made but they are meaningless, what they give with one hand they take with the other only to placate the masses. Lifting the burden slightly from those most likely to crack and pushing the thumb down hard on those who are most willing to take it, but essentially never changing anything and maintaining the status quo.

I believe the only thing that is going to take the system down is itself, unwillingly of course. It will collapse under its own weight, it is already way over stretched, in huge mountains of debt, fighting endless wars it can't win. The people have mostly had enough, but not to the point that they will actually do something about it, only a handful are trying. There isn't much that people can actually do against a huge super power state regardless. Even a much smaller state that has struggled economically and culturally for years like North Korean can't be brought down just by the people alone. Historically it is almost always the state that over stretches, gets too top heavy and topples itself under its own weight.
I believe right now that is what we are starting to see, it will take a long time, years, maybe decades and even then there is no guarantee that it will be toppled completely and instead cling to life in a much smaller form where it must withdraw from the world relinquish top spot to other powers but might still have absolute power on home soil for a long time.

Already we can see that nations like Russia and China are outmaneuvering and out-competing the US in terms of innovation, technology, trade, economy and as well as culturally. This is because of the United States complete inability to manage its own size and a refusal to look inwards rather than outwards as well as having a small ruling elite who care nothing of the people and just use the nation who used to be the most rich and powerful on earth for their own ambitions and gains.

dbarzo said: >>>The real answer is.. do people in this country have enough balls to handle a system that is so foreign to way they've lived all of there life. >>>


How many people do you propose need to show this level of "balls"? Frostproof, FL is one libertarian city councilman away from having 3/5ths of the government there... and it will feature a libertarian Mayor, Martin Sullivan. The election is in April, I believe. Why aren't libertarians focusing on this phenomenon?

With all due respect, IATN, I believe you have it backwards. Our nation (the men, in particular) needs to self-heal BEFORE Adam ever has a chance of garnering 34%+ of the voter approval. But that healing process can happen if enough people read his book, and enough resulting libertarians gravitate towards the mindset that just "knowing I am right is no longer enough". That level of commitment could certainly be realized if we get our boy on the debate stage in 2020.

The Free State Project had the right idea. We need to shorten the reigns a bit and try a Free County Project... even a Free Town Project. This way we can control the way the police and courts act (or prove we can do without them, somehow preventing other governments from encroaching). If I had a badge, and I heard the story of what that uniformed thug put your wife through......... Go watch Mel Gibson's 2010 movie: "Edge of Darkness", and we'll further discuss this. When are libertarian men going to reach a point where they are sick and phuquin' tired of being victimized in a nation where this need not be the case? When are libertarian men going to recognize that liberty doesn't come from attempting to morally persuade parasites, whores, actors and controlFreaks out of their chosen lifestyle? Liberty comes to men who TAKE IT... and then maintain it. The Founders already took it. Why aren't we maintaining it?

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