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RE: "Everything's Like, Okay, Bro..." THE HIPPIE BULLSHIT INVASION OF STEEMIT

in #anarchy6 years ago

I want to make a few comments. If our reality is a simulation or not is entirely pointless until we find out how to manipulate it from the inside.
Our reality is all we got, anything that might be on the outside does not affect at all the value of the things on the inside.

Then on the people rejecting ownership of things such as land, air.... We all agree on the value of ownership, but that does not mean that this concept has to be applied to everything. People would probably agree that you cannot own an idea because it is fundamentally different from a physical object. Land is also different from a human made object as no work was required to create it. In order to own something that you did not create you have to trade it, but what if there is no previous owner? So I dont claim to know the answer, but I think it can be more complex.

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Our reality is all we got, anything that might be on the outside does not affect at all the value of the things on the inside.

Agree 100%.

Land is also different from a human made object as no work was required to create it.

Well, in the case of the apple orchard that was given to me, a lot of effort would have been required to create and maintain it. Anarcho-Capititalist/Voluntaryist property ethic is pretty clear that land which has been "mixed with labor" belongs to the first user that can be most directly linked to it. It may not be a perfect way of doing things, but so far these property norms are the best for each individual, and objectively most logical when minimization of potential conflict is the value being sought. Any other system not based on individual rights inevitably results in a "ruler" or "king" type of situation.

I was never really convinced from a philosophical point of view in the labour-mixing idea. It seems it is a compromise, but one that is working fine in practice. In the case of the apple orchard, the value is probably much larger than the value of a piece of barren land. I think we all agree that you at least own your work so that means you basically own the orchard in any practical setting.

In a world where labour is the main source of wealth there is no problem and we have always lived in such a world. But I think that in the future there might be a time when labour becomes essentially worthless and in that case all value will be derived from the value of raw materials and land. In that sense how can you then claim that just mixing some of your almost worthless labour with something makes it yours?

In any case, in the current world we entirely agree.

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