Can someone help me out with this argument?
Can someone explain to me or send a link that explains how to argue against the thought voting for a third party candidate is like voting for the other party?
Let me explain a bit about my situation. I am not voting at all. I don't really believe in voting nor do I think my vote counts. However, I have been trying to introduce my family to anarchy for some time now.
First, I just tried being straight forward about it and said "I'm an anarchist, I think it is immoral for one person to rule over another" (It might not be your preferred argument but it was the only one I knew at the time and I thought it also might help sway them because they are Christians). That approach definitely didn't work. They immediately shut down.
So I decided to try a softer approach by talking about third party candidates. During the beginning of the election they talked about how bad Trump was but, now that he is the Republican nominee, they are voting for him. One day they were talking about how bad he was so I decided to see if I could get them to even consider looking at Gary Johnson which maybe would make them more open to the next step: Anarchy. BIG MISTAKE. My dad and grandpa flipped out talking about how a vote for third party is a vote for Hillary. I have literally no argument for that (I didn't even tell them I'm not voting. They probably think I'm voting for Johnson)
So does anyone have any argument for that? Or I guess any other suggestions about how to approach them? I am relatively new to this so I haven't heard very many arguments.
Thanks
Firstly we are speaking about the USA; number one the system is set up so that if people vote those votes are directed or used I some fashion to decide on candidates to become Representatives.
Next thing to remember is the system is set up to form some sort of workable government so by electing not to vote; the system still uses votes and non-votes to decide who is going to be your Representative.
Remember this Representative does not know nor care if you voted for them; their role is simply to do whatever it is that they do. Each Representative is give a dozen official staffers so there is no way you will ever have to soil your good name nor reputation by being seen or having to speak with a modern politician.
So regardless if you choose to vote or you choose to not vote well my opinion is you your so messed up to not even care about living in a democracy then I think your sworn security services should stick you on a black flight to Cuba for some a rendition or two by some American heroes.
Service men and women when they are not torturing unknown prisoners with the ideals of making citizens feel safe actually go to war occasionally to defend Americas rights to hold elections. It is totally irrelevant that those military personnel have no clear ideas on how to actually win wars except in theory.
If Americans cannot be bothered to take the time and effort to vote when their country gives them that privilege; then, essentially they are domestic terrorists and a threat to the ongoing ideals of having a stable government running this country.
In other words you are such a radical saying that you feel the right to vote is not useful or relevant, when did you last write to the newspaper editor and express an opinion ?
What protest rally's or anti social sit-ins have you attended ? Have you written to the taxation office stating you will no longer be paying taxation nor filing any future tax returns?
In other words failing to vote is just one of the most lame ways to show the system you are unhappy with professional work for welfare payments making crazy decisions for their contributors based around lobbyists advice...
Your choices are clear you can waste your vote by not using it; of you can vote for a man who is a billion after so many times in bankruptcy or you can vote for a woman who married a politician.
Regardless you do not have any say in who your next President will be, that vote is not yours; the Presidency is decided by the Electoral College; there are far to many government contracts and stakeholders to be rewarded to have such a high office decided upon by willful voters...
After all a modern politician is someone who is to dysfunctional to have a boss, to lazy to hold a job and to cowardly to launch a start up business. So if you cannot figure out someone worth voting for come November, then use your vote to tell your sitting Representative " Your Fired ! " . . .
/ hugz ;)
The reason it is being presented as a vote for a third party is a vote for candidate X is simply this:
Your vote isn't actually negated, as it does count, however if your candidate can't pull into an area of greater than 20-25%, they are considered a spoiler for one of the other two parties. An example where this actually seemed to make an impact (before backing out of the race) was with Ross Perot in the 1992 election. Your argument will be shut down due to the past examples of this coming to fruition.
Serioously there is a reason one of the 8 rules of humanity is; never discuss religion, politics or how much someone else earns.
Thinking you can have a rational unemotional mature respectful debate about politics is only slightly more ridiculous than thinking the government is about to repeal income tax collecting.
There is no way you can change the minds of anyone over the age of 30 about politics; this has been so ingrained into the American psyche you cannot even get a job as a school crossing guard now without declaring for either of the only two political parties...
Who recalls the huge dramas when the Tea Party started trying to take market share percentages of voters away from the Republicans and Democrats ? Truly the media even saw this as a threat to their marketing and propaganda advertising sales and got involved.
The only crime worse than trying to impact political stakeholders finances is when individuals bring negative opinions to things like the share market or to highlight how the US Treasury sends hundreds of millions of clean money overseas every month after they have sold it to international banks...
So things cannot be allowed to grow to far and this is why all the stakeholders colluded to stifle the Tea Party. Do yourself a favor just agree and keep your mouth shut or you will become like one of Donald's kids and suddenly find yourself out of the Will; until of course you say how good Donald is and suddenly find yourself back in the Will : )
/ Hugz ;)
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