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RE: Veganism = Anarchism and vice versa

in #anarchy8 years ago

I think you can observe pretty easily that animals have their preferences, they know what's coming when they are sent to slaughter and do whatever they can to resist, they know love, hate and fear, they often have a better memory then humans.
Basically they should be treated similar to the mentally disabled, in terms of intercourse.

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Ok, i'm not really in the mood to discuss whether or not it is right or wrong. But I would like you to explain to me how you think it is practical. Because humans just so happen to be omnivores. And there is no way you are going to get any significant portion of the population to agree with you. Vegans are an extreme minority, every vegan I know has eventually gone back to eating meat, some after being a vegan for 8+ years. I'm just curious how you expect this to be the case. The only way this could happen is if you were to enforce it.

I'm not going into why the term omnivore doesn't really mean anything, cause if we are basically every animal is.

I don't know about the "vegans" you know, but i doubt any true vegan (which is a state of mind, not a plant-based eater, that's just a consequence) would go back to paying people to enslave, rape and murder animals for their consumption.

But the rest you say, the same is said by ignorant statists about anarchy.
perhaps morality won't even be a part of it, which in the beginning is the case of a lot of eventual vegans by the way.
But the world will go plant based because of the unsustainability of meat production and because of the science of nutrition/health.
Just like it is necessary for anarchy, people have to get out of the state of fear and ignorance and get into a state of love, of acceptance of truth, rather then ignoring it, if this doesn't happen at all we won't get anarchy to begin with and we as a species will eventually drive of a cliff.
For anything to change, the realm of causation (the minds of people) needs to change for the realm of effect (the world around us) to change. There is no change to be made in the realm of effect.

For the unsustainability part there could become technological devices to cheaply produce muscle tissue in lab-like circumstances, where no animal after the initial biopsy needs to be involved in, but when the science on healthy nutrition gets accepted i doubt people would feed their children meat and they themselves might perhaps still eat that petri dish meat out of addiction, but even if humans continue to eat meat, meat grown in a petri dish is reasonably vegan friendly.

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