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RE: Whales: You Have Some Flagging to Do

in #abuse7 years ago (edited)

I believe we share many of the same ideals and views in terms of long term platform health, self voting, rewards pool rape etc. I would like to establish a relationship with you and see if we are on the same track in so far as platform goals, user behavior and common problems. My posts, recent and past can provide you good insight into my thinking.

While I am not as of yet a whale here or a members of extreme influence I'm working my way up the ladder and ask that you not discredit this comment based upon my current reputation. I have considerable experience in other real world areas of expertise.

Thank you for your time.

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I think either that @pawsdog's comment is not intended to grab @lukestockes attention. I'm too, devoted small fish as pawsdog is here on Steemit. We believe that majority here must be promoted to bring good content here on this platform. This is the only thing that make this place great.

I scan @lukestockes activity here as a witness for some time and this post convince me even more, that he is one of good whales here on this platform. When I grow enough and my support to him will be of significant value, he will probably get my vote.

Solid post, I hope to agree, have to see how we mesh..

Thank you for your support.

You are the man Luke! More of such influential and devoted Steemians, as you are, is needed here to make this platform really great.

I appreciate you reaching you, but the "look here" image is quite annoying. At this point we need more than just thinking, but actual code suggestions and pull requests. Some of this stuff is really complicated and involves a lot of game theory dynamics. There are no simple solutions or they would have already been implemented.

Where on Github would I find the current pull requests? You may want to check out @aussieninja I believe he has a background in coding. I'm more old school, c++, php, html.. I evolved in the days of dos, static html and drupal module coding. I have also removed the offending image :)..

I have just though of something ( I do occasionally).

I will have to leave you with the very foggy concept, and leave it with you....(as I know zero of the guts of steemit, and you do)

Is there any way there could be a structure for witnesses (or big players - to have to pay for staying in position?
i.e big players would pledge a chunk of their account, and paid to the voters - for their patronage?)

if this could be implemented , would it not make the big people spread the wealth...?

Told you it was foggy, but you see what I mean...?

(if it's total bollox, feel free to say!lol)
(if it's brilliant, I will take the accolades)

The entire structure is based on positive motivation. Witnesses and investors are rewarded for their efforts. If you remove than and reverse it, you'll get people leaving in droves to other projects which will reward their time and effort.

I may be misunderstanding you, but witnesses have to be rewarded in order to pay for the servers and the time to maintain the blockchain.

'it's total bollox' would have been suffice!😂😂😂

Hahaha :)

"The entire structure is based on positive motivation."

That motivation is being hoovered such that it isn't making it to the larger market. I've seen no proposal that might enable that to be done. The upshot from @blocktrades recent proposal is that a modified change along those lines will be undertaken in HF20 - and this will cause greater motivation to vote for whale posts.

Not the fix we need bro.

We need to get ~30% of rewards into the wallets of minnows. It's easy to see how those rewards are being captured such that they never get there.

Whales don't need rewards from the pool as a form of dividend from their investment. There are traditional dividend mechanisms that can suffice, and capital gains is the real reason to invest.

Letting whales dip into the rewards pool for dividends is like letting investors in a broom company walk out the door with the product. In Steemit's case the product is rewards for content.

It's not getting to the sales floor.

The only way it's going to is if the whales dipping into it are deprived of it. End curation rewards. Kill bots. Captchas work all over the web, and 2FA works better. Make VP more egalitarian, so that people are included, rather than excluded, from participation right from the word go.

These things would demonstrably get rewards to content authors, and end a lot of the financial manipulation that is killing Steemit user retention.

Your comment got me thinking about a solution which I call "steeminators" which I just posted here. It attempts to solve a lot of the problems you've had to deal with regarding flagging such as the time and money you had to spend flagging undesirable comments.

"Look Here" You are demanding attention for what? a post which is completely off topic and clogging up the comment section! Don't complain if you'll get downvoted.

Edit : He's now edited the post to make it more on topic

And you are? I was actually sent here by another user promoting this user and asking me to delegate SP to him as he is a good witness. I read his post above, which discusses his platform ideals and goals. I commented accordingly, on topic, and offered him a chance to network. Not sure what your are not reading or where the aggression comes from. If I get flagged for reaching out, then I guess I would know not vote him as a witness. Worry about yourself and the rest will take care of itself. :)

It wasn't on topic before you edited it ;)
And it wasn't the first time I saw you comment with an eye grabbing image and an off topic post just to promote your blog to whales. But good luck, no biggie.

I appreciate you trying to "police" comments on my blog, but please, leave that to me.

Upvote! What a wise move!

you don't own the comment section. it's annoying for us readers to have to scroll through dozens of spammy or off topic comments.
if I see spammers I'm gonna call them out! they're wasting my attention.
anyway now he's edited the post and has some relevance to the topic, before it had none.

No, I don't, and you're clearly free to do as you please. I would have preferred to see it myself.

I did add the word "reward pool rape" to clarify. Perhaps my initial comment was a bit too ambiguous for the average reader prior to that. My apologies.. no hard feelings..

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