@EarthNation Abusing the voting bots and Powering Down [Turn your $2 post into a $200 post TODAY]
These guys post a link to a video, 30 words, and buy every vote on the market to turn thier $2 post into a $200
It wasn't too long ago, that they got the attention of, well.. I thought, everyone with this type of activity.
So after a little break, since everyone under the sun was flagging them and calling them out for thier bullshit, they have now continued this behaviour.
They don't have much of a real following... they simply spend all of thier liquid on buying votes, and continue to power down.
Is this the type of activity we want to reward?
Please, community, let me know how you feel about this.
Full Disclosure. I spent 9 on a bot vote to promote this post
Open posts by @earthnation if you'd like to help correct the rewards on them
https://steemit.com/earthnation/@earthnation/6ybofa-the-earth-nation-planetary-alliance <- Currently $50 worth of votes purchased
https://steemit.com/earthnation/@earthnation/earth-nation-coordinators-talkshow-12-3-2017 <- Currently $166 worth of votes purchased [edited per correction]
Here he's talking about Steem as more than a way to make money.
I've seen no evil intent in their content. If their votes purchased produce more than they cost it's a market inefficiency not @earthnation fault.
I see no reason to flag this post much below the price they paid for the votes, (not sure how to easily tell though) they're not promoting on Steem for the money from vote buying, (unlike most of the other vote bidders that pays not enough to attract attention.
I don't see it having been brought down by anything more than 0.50$
Hi @mooncryption, @transisto, @inquiringtimes.
Were sorry if any of our posts offended you. Our steemit bot defender post was an honest attempt to offer a solution to steem that otherwise did not exist.
Our recent show posting we boosted by about 70 dollars. After the boost, several hundred people up-voted us and increased the value of our posting by almost 100 more dollars!
There are many steemians who really love our inspiring and engaging posts.
We are here to add value, love, awareness and consciousness to steem. We are also promoting steem on other social media outlets, we have a steem guild for new steemians to get started, and we use our voting power to upvote our minnows that use the earthnation tag.
Were doing the best we can here to add value to the community. We bought our steem from blocktrades with btc as an investment into steem. We don't intend to power down past 5000.
How can we help heal this? Would any of you like to get on a video call with a couple of our coordinators?
We truly only want to add value to this community. There are quite a few other accounts that are using bots too.... It's part of the growing steem culture. I think the entire steem community (ourselves included) is trying to find a good balance between organic upvotes/bot upvoting.
I've had to take some time to consider my response. It might be easier if we could chat on discord or steemit.chat
I alone am not the judge of community standards. Nor, are there laws or firm rules about how to use the platform.
In one sense, what the code allows is permissible. However, we have seen over the past few weeks that downvotes are part of how the community voices it's opinion, but hopefully with calm and reason.
Personally, I do use some voting bots. I have paid as much as $10 for an upvote. As you become a more established user, I think that it's just not a good look, and can easily come under scrutiny when you have a very high value post with a significant portion coming from voting bots.
Something that bothered me about this post, is that it's just a link to a video. It would be nice if there was some more text going into what is presented in the video.
I'm interested in your Steem guild, as I do a lot of welcoming type of activity, and have been writing/collecting various guides for a while, now.
Hope to find you in discord
Frankly, if this is the only "bad" thing they've done, everything would be fine @transisto.
See this post for a summary of everything they have done previously. Some brief bullet points:
If anyone did even one or two of these things, their reputation would be below 25 for sure.
Thank you for the love @transisto. It was quite difficult being met with so much hatred on steemit. People like you are making us want to stick around and keep adding our offerings to the steem community.
It seems pretty malicious to use a service (the voting bot), and then after the service successfully completed its job (even giving @earthnation a profit), flag their account's comment. By using the service itself, you know you'll get a comment. If I were the owner of such a service I would ban any customer that flagged me.
I'm not sure if they're still doing it because I haven't checked recently.
hey @mooncryption...... We unflagged the bot comments after receiving a strong negative response from the steem community.....
and we havn't flagged any comments at all since then.
Sorry if that offended you. It would be amazing if there was a guide to steem culture or something....
https://steemit.com/community/@earthnation/the-earth-nation-planetary-alliance
https://steemit.com/earthnation/@earthnation/6ybofa-the-earth-nation-planetary-alliance
Which one is the old..what is the new article?
Don't look at the date;)
Yeah first post didn't get any attention so they're posting again while buying votes.
Seems like a logical decision to me!
You've hit the nail on the head here - wish more people understood this!
I stand corrected.
Lets just say because steemit is not centralized people have not proper ethics on how to be in a community as steemit. Its totally unproper.
Bots have no morals
Would you like to see my bunghole?
Lol 😕😕😕 whats that?
only at lake Titicaca
that sounds like a pretty GOOD idea.
how can we get in on some of that action?
all you need is $1000 startup capital, 0 interest in the steem community, and the willingness to learn how to game to voting bots. Pretty good ROI since now they have 5000 sp, and have transfered out quite a bit... all in a couple short months
blocktrades vest 4,679.163 STEEM to earthnation
43 days ago
More like $5000 startup capital + some pf their fake accounts +time.
I guess more in the $7-8k area..
wow...I already HAVE that...
how come I ain't getting $200 a post?
you have to be willing to risk all your reputation and earn lots of flags and disapproval from whales... also you have to be willing to know that you're killing the reward pool and devaluing other STEEM posts... also you have to care 0% about STEEM
that would be your opinion
I'm not convinced it is so.
nice attempt at shameing though.
I wasn't trying to shame you @everittdmickey, I was trying to shame @earthnation as they have done all of these things.
also you have to care 0% about STEEM
well yeah...you were.
I will somewhat agree with transisto. while i dont like the practice, it's not any different in what many crypto bloggers do when they try to promote, or the several dozen people who pay for votes for their mediocre articles. earthnation isnt posting crap, they are promoting their organization. i've often seen long posts by them. if you want to say promoting in this way is not good, that i agree with, but many do not. but i cannot agree with you singling out one account to the exclusion of dozens of others who do the exact same thing.
shortcuts always fail
Hello @inquiringtimes,
First things first, congratulations for writing abou this topic, this kind of things really upsets me, We are supposed to build a community here, how newcomers will get their voice, We should empower great content and not just build a market of votes, I mean, many guys will earn a bunch of money using voting bots, but this behaviors will broke the spirit we want.
All best,
@davidfumo
@botwarschronicles
https://steemit.com/steemit/@fractalfreedom/join-the-arms-race-today
It felt natural to me to resteem this post.
I have not understood the beginning of all this, But after reading some comments Looks good, but there are some of them seem to disagree ..
If it is good, that means we can try it. but if it violates ethics steemit is not good. @inquiringtimes I'm Sorry if wrong respond? I apologize