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RE: Whitepaper Discussion on Voting Abuse

in #abuse7 years ago

I understand you say: we only have 10 votes/day, but with the vote slider at 25%, we have 40 votes per day. Yes ok, we can use the 100% on ourself and a (much) smaller on others, but your statement you stopped active curation because of only having 10 votes a day, I don't really understand since you could continue active curation with the vote slider at 25%.

Incentives to downvotes: Absolutely agree, it needs to be implemented in a way that tools are available for abusive downvoters to get penalised. Account not posting and commenting can currently not be penalised. Maybe we shall think of the ability to vote at account level as well, creating a way to also penalised abusers at account level.

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The whole "drop voting slider to 25% and it'll be all the same" doesn't work for me at all. I tried it for 2 months and failed at it miserably. Few reasons -

  1. There's enormous cognitive load in trying to carefully ration and calculate voting power when you are reading hundreds of posts/comments a day.
  2. I can just as well vote on 10 posts at 100% and call it a day. It heavily incentivizes lazy curation.
  3. Active curators are being squeezed out of the reward pool. By having to adjust voting strengths down to 1/4th, active curators get a poor deal; while casual curators and self-upvoters can continue at 100% as they would. In effect, the more you curate, the lower strength you have to use, the lesser influence you have.

So, after over 2 months of fighting he system, I have embraced it. Now I just go through a small fraction of the posts I used to go through and call it a day. That's what the system wants you to do, so I shall.

I can just as well vote on 10 posts at 100% and call it a day. It heavily incentivizes lazy curation.

Gee, if only someone had pointed this out ahead of time.

I understand you points, and I see the benefit in active curation by a larger amount of Steemians. The down side of all of this is lower distribution of votes. I still try to give 25% votes to others on posts and comments generally a little less and use up my 20% for the day. But I must say, with other dynamics in our community, I dont look at the normal channels anymore, and use alternative ways to read posts, essentially a list of my favourite authors, and from time to time I go through the NEW channel, but even my own HOME channel I hardly look at anymore. A shame for all those who publish good posts since it is more difficult for them to trigger me to read their posts and get a vote from me. I wish we would have a different system, in which the content I really like gets to channels I actively like to look at . I used Esteem Life app for some time, and have some channels setup to discover interesting posts from authors I do not follow. However, that App is a bit too buggy for me to really like it for daily use. But that said, such functionalities should have been part of our prime interfaces to the Steem blockchain.

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