RE: Why Every Writer and Blogger Should be Using Steemit
I'm a bit worried about this myself. I don't like writing short little posts. That's like the McDonald's junk food of social media. When I write, I pour my heart & soul into producing lengthy posts with real meat on them. Often I go through several drafts to get the wording just right. And I spend a lot of time on formatting and getting good pictures to go with the text. It can take me many hours for a single post, which is why I only do one per week.
But lately, the whales / curation guilds seem to have abandoned me, and comments on my posts are also way down. It's beyond disheartening. I'm trying to shrug it off and keep writing, but I find my motivation is starting to decrease with every post that gets ignored. Will keep at it a while longer, but if this keeps up I might stop blogging and just enjoy curation for a while.
That's the eternal battle of quality vs. quantity. Some people care about meaningful things, and others just want the fads of meaningless popularity to make money from.
Thanks for the comment. That sucks. I feel your situation. I deal with some of that in my recent post trying to get people to become more aware of issues on Steemit (with more to follow): Reasons Some People Quit Their Jobs - Does it Relate to Steemit?. Check it out and contribute in the comments with some meaningful discussion as some others have done, and I am starting a trial to personally reward comments from my wallet, but no one knows that yet ;)
I would say start making shorter posts, on different things. Get more frequency out there. That's probably why you're not being noticed much, since you dont have many posts going out for ppl to see.
I agree with this so much, I see posts that people throw together earn a fortune - while others who have put everything into theirs get ignored.
I am trying out some shorter posts myself, but most of the time if I have a particularly large post in mind I will break it into sections - it's all the same post in my mind but to the reader it's a stand alone piece.
I would love for commenting to become more common with better rewards, I think comments need more rewards and focus especially when they aren't just a throw away - good post.
It's awesome you're persisting on here you are a brilliant content creator, finding new ways to incentivise comments is admirable and only serves for the good of the platform.
The site is moving to far towards people just wanting rewards, it seems few people actually want to open the post and read it.
Most seem to be in trails (which I have no problem with - I love the trails and guilds) but due to this they don't actually see the post, therefore no chance to comment.
If people are only interested in money, and I get it money is awesome and makes life so much easier.
However this means people snap judge on what to vote on, by how well they believe or perceive the post will perform - rather than on the quality of the content contained within.
This is why I think we really need to find a way to incentivise comments more, because they deserve to be rewarded more - and they encourage interaction and conversation in the community.
It would help drive commenters to branch out and find new content to check out and leave a well thought out comment - this is what could make steemit amazing for everyone.
We have creators who earn, we have voters who earn and now we Need readers/viewers - best way to encourage that is to reward them for their work.
I appreciate all you are doing on here and hope things improve for us all :)
I agree with your last comment, you had a good idea, the best one for interactivity with comments. Not hard implement either.
This is what I wanted to do with SteemKURE. But now that the communities are coming out, I don't think my website is needed at all anymore.
But one thing:
That the psychological problem that is created once money is introduced into a competitive environment, where they don't comment to comment, but comment to get rewarded. That is bad intrinsic motivation, or lack thereof.
Why do I comment? To comment. Not to get rewards. Posts I do to also get rewarded, but not comments. I comment to add what I want to add to someone's topic, sometimes just to thank them. So there is that one thing for me. Comment to comment. Curate to curate. Not for rewards. Those are a bonus. It need to be about the content first, and thats what many of the users are failing to do.
With the comment to comment point, I will say I think you're right -
I guess when you put it that way it makes sense, people should just be interested enough to comment without the incentive.
I also agree it is a psychological problem and people now think to do anything on here you should be rewarded - that is why we need more people being driven here just to be viewers.
This way there would be more balance within the community, that is why I suggested highlighting comments - so there was a chance of reward, not that they should get it or deserve it necessarily, just encourage new users to enjoy what's already on offer and maybe stay active in the community that way.
I mean youtube videos can have hundreds of comments because the majority of people are viewers, and they receive no monetary benefits from this - it's about getting an audience for steemit.
And I think that is how the platform will become sustainable in the future, I just don't know how to make that happen.
Glad you liked the idea, I have heaps but not sure where to direct them really but @ausbitbank and I have long chats about different possible changes etc.
I really see the potential steemit has if it's handled well, the premise is brilliant - but if we can't bring in people just to watch and everyone on here is a creator the site can't be as amazing as it could be.
How to incentivise posts? They get whales to uvpote right? Isn't the thing here? We;re talking about how people aren't getting rewarded? Well it's no different in comments. Making a comment reward pool as Steemit Inc suggested, is no real solution. Just as the whales can't upvote all posts, they cant do all comments.
So as some feel, why make posts if they are not getting rewarded? Where are the extra incentives there? Same for comments. People may not comment because they are focused on rewards, just as they are on posts. We already have the incentive on post and comments to potentially get rewarded, it's just things are not structured to ensure that work and contribution are rewarded, so people feel undervalued. I get it too.
Anyways, I'm just doing my part to reward people who do contribute on my posts. If they want rewards for writing good comments, then they can write good comments and try to get rewarded, but still not guarantee hehe. I judge them myself.
I disagree with rewarding people for simply reading or viewing. People reading things is supposed to be because they want to, again, not for getting rewards.
The intrinsic motivation needs to be developed instead of applying extrinsic motivations more. Shooting Ourselves in the Foot by Leading with a Carrot.
Not everyone will get rewarded for comments, but maybe more authors can recognize the comment contributions and reward some meaningful content themselves like I will try.
Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for the advice. I think you're probably right, I need to post more frequently and get my name out there more. I try to comment as much as I can on the work of others, which helps to an extent, but I could be doing more. Maybe I'll still write my typical weighty posts, but split them up into 2-3 sections and publish each piece at regular intervals throughout the week. I know the attention span of the typical Internet user is rather shorter than I'd like and it would be nice to have people reading & engaging with my work instead of just skimming over it. Striking a balance between too long and just long enough is a difficult thing to do.
I will definitely check out your post and see if I can contribute to the discussion!
I agree I spend a minimum of 4 hours on pretty much every post I do, then there's finding images and formatting - just so much work goes into every post.
I have also seem to lost favour of the guilds and whales, not sure what if anything I have done to merit this but all I can do is keep writing and hope to get a few good votes here and there.
I have started to be more active on twitter, reaching out to other authors and literary agents even publishers I have come across and if I can I will recommend steemit for them.
My thought is that if enough authors and creators who want to create larger content come here in droves, we will soon as a group hold more power to sway the public opinion to embrace longer posts.
Once there is a bigger community all pushing for bigger posts I think others will start to see more value in this content, if this is going to be a social network for everyone it needs to be all inclusive - that's why I have no issue with the porn lol.
Try not to stop posting if you can I know it can be really disheartening, keep pushing through and you never know a whale might drop by and surprise you.
I wish you all the best on here and in life :) Followed
Thanks for the encouraging words. You're right, the more creative, talented writers flock to Steemit the more accepting the atmosphere will be for those types of posts. I'm all for inclusion; a place for everything and everything in its place. It might help if content was actually segregated into different types (links, short posts, videos, long posts, etc) and then a separate reward pool for each, weighted according to the kind of effort required for that category.
And you've got yourself another follower. :-)
I agree steemit is for all and hey I'll be writing my book on here until they kick me off lol.
I understand the idea behind segregating the types of content, this on it's own could really help with people on a day to day basis with finding the type of content they are interested in but tags usually help a lot with that when people use them properly.
I do think however you're idea about splitting the reward pool per topic, and then weighting them against the effort required would be an extremely hard sell on steemit - people aren't thrilled with the idea of a separate reward pool for comments.
And effort required is really subjective rather than quantifiable with any degree of certainty, I appreciate where you're coming from - but I just don't see the majority going for it.
I think as a community we need to realise we want all formats to suceed on here, not just short content and that means possibly more dedicated guilds possibly funded by steemit but controlled by reputable community members where a required number need to vote for funds to clear - anyway just an idea.
Thanks so much for the follow, hope I provide you with some entertainment with my content :)