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RE: A Different Wrong Direction

in #anarchy7 years ago

Yeah, but he is still better than Hillary. Executing drug dealers would not be murder, technically. Often times in life we have to choose the lesser of two evils. We can abstain but then we are just abdicating the decision to others. This president will likely appoint 3 Supreme Court justices, the ones Hillary would have appointed would have been openly hostile to the 1st 2nd, 5th and 14th amendments. Trump sucks in a lot of ways, but we will still have free speech and the right to bear arms when he is done.

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Legal executions are still murder. In fact, they are premeditated murder.

A consentual trade between two people (what a drug deal is) is NOT a greater evil than premeditated murder. You might want to consider why exactly two people trading (drugs, sex, weapons, or anything else) of their own free will should result in one of them being killed.

Because some group calling themselves "the masters" or "the government" said so doesn't make it right.

That being said, I'd agree that he is better than Hillary.

You can feel like it is murder but "murder" is a word that has a certain meaning that is very clear.

mur·der
[ˈmərdər]

NOUN
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

"unlawful", thus when you kill someone within the boundaries of the law, such as with an execution or in cases of self defense, it is not murder. That is just what the word means.

Because some group calling themselves "the masters" or "the government" said so doesn't make it right.

It does not make it right but it does make it not murder.

People who trade in dirty inconsistent unlabeled poisons that kill 60,000+ Americans a year are not really selling a merchantable product and they are evading the taxes that we may not like but we are paying, which screws us. We expect that things will be labeled and the label will represent accurately what the product is at a minimum, illicit drugs don't meet that standard. The solution is to legalize them and regulate them just like any other food or drug. Trump does not see that because his brother died from drugs and he was in his prime in the 80s when being tough on drugs was cool.
One shudders at the thought of Hillary despite Trump's obvious flaws. She wanted to retain the federal prohibition on medical cannabis as well.

Yeah, I suppose that lung cancer is better than brain cancer.

Really drank in that Trump koolaid, didn't you? By the way, murder is not a technicality. Killing people for selling products to willing customers is murder, regardless of what politician scribbles say about it. (P.S. The Orange Fuhrer is CURRENTLY pushing for federal "gun control" that Hillary would never have gotten away with.)

Really drank in that Trump koolaid, didn't you?

I didn't vote for Trump, but I did watch Hillary call for a constitutional amendment to do away with the first amendment at the DNC and saw them all cheer that. Recognizing that Trump is not as bad as Hillary is drinking the kool aid? So am I supposed to say Hillary would have been better and that would be not drinking the kool aid?

By the way, murder is not a technicality. Killing people for selling products to willing customers is murder, regardless of what politician scribbles say about it.

Of course it is, "murder" is a word that has a very specific meaning, not all killing is murder and legal executions by the state for a crime are not murder, by definition. That's silly, if you kill someone in self defense it is not murder is it?

"(P.S. The Orange Fuhrer is CURRENTLY pushing for federal "gun control" that Hillary would never have gotten away with.)"

Not really, Trump said a lot of things, seems like lip service since he has retreated from all of them, he is not actually pushing for anything but arming teachers. Tell me about the federal gun control he is pushing. If Hillary had the Parkland false flag we would probably have a federal assault weapons ban by now and her supreme court would uphold it. Would Trump's?

PS when people use euphemisms for the president they seem more triggered than objective, what was your opinion of people who could not discuss Obama without using some name they made up for him that they considered insulting? If you called Obama "the brown fuhrer" that would be racist wouldn't it?

So the communists and the nazi's and the sorts, did not commit murder either. They were all working within the law.

they were deemed to have violated international law in some cases, then they were executed, or would you say they murdered those Nazis?

They killed murderers.
But some underground group, could have killed them even in the war and it still would not be murder. If my grandparents who hid jews in their home would have had an invasion and would have killed the nazi police, out of defense they would be murderers according to your "logic"?

Or they would be criminals for even hiding jews and therefor if they were executed for that, it was o.k. For they were the criminals for hiding the jews? And my grandparents were not murdered in that situation but receiving their just punishment, for they should have obeyed the law? You probably would have been an NSB-er if you were their neighbour who would have ratted on them. If I reason according to your "logic".

In some cases.....
how about all the murderers of those hundred millions of other people

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so you would say the Nazis were "murdered"?

Do you think killing US troops is a murder?
Isn't the act of killing a person called a murder? Unless you killed someone in defense? Nazis were mostly individuals believing in main stream story, just like most of mericans and israelis do today. do you believe that if a politician writes down that killing some people isn't a murder it changes the morality of this act? do you support other troops? how about the laws of physics? when politician wrote down that on 9/11 laws of physics worked differently? do you believe this scribble changed physics just like it changes the morality? what else can these magicians do in your opinion? :D

  1. Not in combat, no, because I know the definition of the word "murder".
  2. No, there are additional conditions that must be met for it to be "murder".
  3. There you go, an example of killing someone that is not "murder", see how that works? For it to be murder the killing must be unlawful.
  4. A politician writing down things? That's not a factor.
  5. other troops? doing what?
  6. The laws of physics are great, and totally irrelevant to the definition of "murder".
  7. I'm not familiar with that politician.
  8. I have idea what you are JAQing about at this point.
  9. magicians?

"I like taking guns away early. Take the guns first, go through due process second."

Guess who said that, Hillary or Trump. Tell me again how Trump is better, because Hillary would have demolished the 2nd and 5th Amendments.

I don't have to guess, I knew already Trump said that, Hillary was running on an openly anti gun/ speech platform, Hillary and Obama were supporting the democrats who were literally protesting in the house of representatives AGAINST civil rights, trying to pass a bill that would have negated the 1st, 2nd, 5th, and 14th amendments on the federal level. Hillary had the DNC literally cheering for an amendment to amend the 1st amendment. Like I said, Trump sucks, but clearly he is the lesser of two evils. Who would Hillary have appointed to the court? Who did Trump actually appoint, someone who will protect gun rights or not?

Trump's comment is meaningless, he says a lot of things, has he pushed for a bill to take guns without due process?

Keep tightening those blinders. Maybe reality will disappear.

I note you didn't even attempt to answer any of my questions before you shut down.

And what do you do with your free speech and the right to bear arms?

Draw pictures of Mouhammed without fear.

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